Emira Engine / gearbox mounts Upgrade

[EFE]

Engine mounts now fitted and I can confirm it is a dramatic improvement. Crisp and tight gearchange, heal and toe braking vastly improved with less engine movement and an all together more connected experience. Sharpens it up for not much money and about 4 hours fitting.

 

[Nova]

Engine mounts now fitted and I can confirm it is a dramatic improvement. Crisp and tight gearchange, heal and toe braking vastly improved with less engine movement and an all together more connected experience. Sharpens it up for not much money and about 4 hours fitting.

But do you notice more noise and vibration? Just curious.

 

[kitkat]

I can’t help but question a dramatic increase in feel for shifter, clutch, braking and throttle — it’s not like these controls are directly connected to the engine via linkages. These are all cable, hydraulic, and electronically controlled — none are mechanical linkages.

 

[KAR120C]

I can’t help but question a dramatic increase in feel for shifter, clutch, braking and throttle — it’s not like these controls are directly connected to the engine via linkages. These are all cable, hydraulic, and electronically controlled — none are mechanical linkages.

I’ve done on previous lotus. I could never feel a throttle or brake difference. Shifting was significantly better. Stock engine has a lot of fore and aft movement which translates to rotation. That changes the linkage geometry between acceleration and deceleration. The reduced changes in the geometry makes the shifting feel more predictable and tighter.

 

[EFE]

But do you notice more noise and vibration? Just curious.

I have not noticed any difference, and I have installed the stiffer black inserts rather than the softer yellow ones.

 

[EFE]

I can’t help but question a dramatic increase in feel for shifter, clutch, braking and throttle — it’s not like these controls are directly connected to the engine via linkages. These are all cable, hydraulic, and electronically controlled — none are mechanical linkages.

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[Eagle7]

Engine mounts now fitted and I can confirm it is a dramatic improvement. Crisp and tight gearchange, heal and toe braking vastly improved with less engine movement and an all together more connected experience. Sharpens it up for not much money and about 4 hours fitting.

Any pictures of them installed, or any part of the installation process? Are you going to do a write-up of the procedure/process?

 

[EFE]

Any pictures of them installed, or any part of the installation process? Are you going to do a write-up of the procedure/process?

They are almost impossible to see installed as they are black and insert into the gaps of the existing engine/gearbox mount. The engine/gearbox mounts where they are fitted are tucked up quite high under the rear sub frame. There is an exploded view that I posted earlier in this thread.

 

[netsinah]

I purchased a set of V2 rims from Aerie and they agreed to throw in, their short throw shift kit. I stumbled upon this thread, to learn about the Powerflex transmission bush insert kit sold for the Emira and it's benefits, when combined with the short throw shift kit, although some say they haven't noticed or don't think the Powerflex would make a noticeable difference.

Anyway, I'll likely buy it from GRP. Nothing's too good for my Emira (lol).

My question is how many have installed the Powerflex on the Emira. I'm discouraged by EFE saying it was a 4-hour job. Looking at the Lotus Talk thread about doing this for an Evora, someone who did a similar job described "a lot of swearing" and it being difficult. I'm also discouraged that YouTube offers no directions and by the sounds of it, no video showing an install will ever be done. All this tempts me to have a shop install them, especially if the transmission should be supported during the job.

FWIW: I enjoy working on vehicles, have a 4-post lift, an Emira shop manual, a decent selection of tools, and purchased several goodies from GRP to install as a "winter project" (Millteck valve control, Eventuri, third cat delete). My thoughts are that's likely enough to do, since my 20's somehow disappeared 35+ years ago and adding another 3-4 hours to my job list, may take the joy out of it, especially with my spouse who already thinks I've long ago lost my mind when it comes to vehicles. Any thoughts/advice?

BTW: I paid for my Aerie rims over 2.5 months ago and followed up with Aerie 2 weeks ago asking for an update, and have heard nothing back. I sent them a "message" today, via this Forum. We'll see if that works. I may need a name and phone number as another method of contacting them, if this continues.

 

[Mattbrissy]

I purchased a set of V2 rims from Aerie and they agreed to throw in, their short throw shift kit. I stumbled upon this thread, to learn about the Powerflex transmission bush insert kit sold for the Emira and it's benefits, when combined with the short throw shift kit, although some say they haven't noticed or don't think the Powerflex would make a noticeable difference.

Anyway, I'll likely buy it from GRP. Nothing's too good for my Emira (lol).

My question is how many have installed the Powerflex on the Emira. I'm discouraged by EFE saying it was a 4-hour job. Looking at the Lotus Talk thread about doing this for an Evora, someone who did a similar job described "a lot of swearing" and it being difficult. I'm also discouraged that YouTube offers no directions and by the sounds of it, no video showing an install will ever be done. All this tempts me to have a shop install them, especially if the transmission should be supported during the job.

FWIW: I enjoy working on vehicles, have a 4-post lift, an Emira shop manual, a decent selection of tools, and purchased several goodies from GRP to install as a "winter project" (Millteck valve control, Eventuri, third cat delete). My thoughts are that's likely enough to do, since my 20's somehow disappeared 35+ years ago and adding another 3-4 hours to my job list, may take the joy out of it, especially with my spouse who already thinks I've long ago lost my mind when it comes to vehicles. Any thoughts/advice?

BTW: I paid for my Aerie rims over 2.5 months ago and followed up with Aerie 2 weeks ago asking for an update, and have heard nothing back. I sent them a "message" today, via this Forum. We'll see if that works. I may need a name and phone number as another method of contacting them, if this continues.

Aerie are notorious for telling people they have stock. Then you have to hassle them and it’ll still take months to get to you. I have bought from them before and the owner makes a lot of promises but never lives up to them. I understand he may be busy and supply chains may take time but there’s never an accurate eta. So buying from aerie is always going to be a waiting game of patience. If you’re after a smooth and informed purchase experience then you’ve bought from the wrong company. Their stuff is good enough but customer service is sorely lacking. You can get into contact with them from WhatsApp with a link on their website. Good luck

 

[Time2Fly]

I purchased a set of V2 rims from Aerie and they agreed to throw in, their short throw shift kit. I stumbled upon this thread, to learn about the Powerflex transmission bush insert kit sold for the Emira and it's benefits, when combined with the short throw shift kit, although some say they haven't noticed or don't think the Powerflex would make a noticeable difference.

Anyway, I'll likely buy it from GRP. Nothing's too good for my Emira (lol).

My question is how many have installed the Powerflex on the Emira. I'm discouraged by EFE saying it was a 4-hour job. Looking at the Lotus Talk thread about doing this for an Evora, someone who did a similar job described "a lot of swearing" and it being difficult. I'm also discouraged that YouTube offers no directions and by the sounds of it, no video showing an install will ever be done. All this tempts me to have a shop install them, especially if the transmission should be supported during the job.

FWIW: I enjoy working on vehicles, have a 4-post lift, an Emira shop manual, a decent selection of tools, and purchased several goodies from GRP to install as a "winter project" (Millteck valve control, Eventuri, third cat delete). My thoughts are that's likely enough to do, since my 20's somehow disappeared 35+ years ago and adding another 3-4 hours to my job list, may take the joy out of it, especially with my spouse who already thinks I've long ago lost my mind when it comes to vehicles. Any thoughts/advice?

BTW: I paid for my Aerie rims over 2.5 months ago and followed up with Aerie 2 weeks ago asking for an update, and have heard nothing back. I sent them a "message" today, via this Forum. We'll see if that works. I may need a name and phone number as another method of contacting them, if this continues.

@Aerie

 

[crashprash]

Engine mounts now fitted and I can confirm it is a dramatic improvement. Crisp and tight gearchange, heal and toe braking vastly improved with less engine movement and an all together more connected experience. Sharpens it up for not much money and about 4 hours fitting.

link to engine mounts? powerflex only offer the transmission mount inserts

 

[Tomwa]

If you have a 4post lift, i think the best thing would be some kind of transmission jack or some way to support or 'lift' the engine. (Lifting could be relative, like you hold engine/trans in place and lower the body)

Based on my other engine experiences, mounts can be difficult because there is a "just right" position. Inserts like this would likely require you to fully clear the engine from the mounts, unbolt the mount arm and have enough wiggle room (including bolt/stud lengths) to get it out, push the inserts in, then repeat getting everything back together.

In my experience, There's a lot wiggling needed, some engine tilting, loosening everything associated with 'locating' the engine, then getting all bolts started before tightening anything down. There's basically always going to be some degree of misalignment or bind until it settles into place, but once the engine is in the "right place" for alignment it's full weight will be on some bolt and impossible to slide it fully in place.

Get yourself some sacrificial screw drivers to run through the mount bushings to 'hold' a mount orientation, and likely some pry bars to help wiggle, the play with how much weight is/is not on the engine to find it's neutral spot.

If there's an easy to access mount, like the fore-aft mount, probably remove it entirely so you have that free range of motion.

Generally even though it can also be a pain, this is a bit easier on longitudinal engines as the trans mount is removed entirely and you just have some tilting left-right to do. Worst case, find some videos on removing the engine mounts on Toyota Camry (assuming mount locations on the engine are the same, can't do much about chassis side) and see if they have recommendations on what side to start on, or how to pivot the engine.

 

[RyanGphoto]

Engine mounts now fitted and I can confirm it is a dramatic improvement. Crisp and tight gearchange, heal and toe braking vastly improved with less engine movement and an all together more connected experience. Sharpens it up for not much money and about 4 hours fitting.

seriously... 4 hours? I would love to do this, but 4 hours is no where near something I want to tackle with my car...