Emira Review Index [V6 FE]

emiraspain · Jun 10, 2022

Another thing, I bought the YARIS GR based on Harry and various others reviews without driving it, but to be honest I dont like it much..... it is never a good idea to go purely on reviews, even EVEN if they themselves buy the car.
However, what can be almost guaranteed if they buy the car, is that it will not loose much money...

Leonard · Jun 10, 2022

TomE said:
I do think it will be a great car and the shifter will probably be similar or slightly better than an Evora - which requires a precise, direct and not rushed gear change which you soon learn. But it’s very unlikely we’ll see significant changes between the review cars and customer cars. Also remember that what a reviewer highlights as a concern may be a non-issue to you when you actually drive the car.

The gear shift is the biggest concern for me.
We have all chosen a manual car and for the shift to be compromised is a massive no go for me. I've passed over many cars in my time because the gearbox has been poor.
I've never driven an Evora or Exige before and the reviews about the gearbox was something that put me off doing so. Lotus said they were addressing it and I had every faith they would as they have significantly more resource than they have ever had before. That doesn't appear to be the case though and hence why I really do need a test drive now before I commit.
I was ready to trade my Yaris after 2 months as the shift from 3rd to 2nd was really graunchy. Fortunately it has loosened up considerably. Its those little things that I really can't get past tho

Leonard · Jun 10, 2022

emiraspain said:
Another thing, I bought the YARIS GR based on Harry and various others reviews without driving it, but to be honest I dont like it much..... it is never a good idea to go purely on reviews, even EVEN if they themselves buy the car.
However, what can be almost guaranteed if they buy the car, is that it will not loose much money...

Pipe down heathen!

You obviously aren't driving it fast enough

In all seriousness though I can understand why its not for everybody. It suits me as I live somewhere with small compromised roads with lots of surface and gradient changes.
I have no doubt that it will be significantly faster than the Emira over these roads. The other thing that does worry me a little about the Emira is the width..

I'm 48 next month though so probably about time I moved on from a hot hatch

(I have said previously tho that I really don't care what a car looks like as long as its fun)

Hedge · Jun 10, 2022

emiraspain said:
Yes, they either asked for it, or Porsche offered it. Either way it was very VERY poor form..... No one is afraid of the porsche competition, some of us hate them, some of us like them, but we should all certainly respect them! However, we or rather the journalists should also respect LOTUS, although they were very naive and pretty unprofessional themselves in this instance, not making certain rules themselves and enforcing them!
I know, we know, lotus will give them another car and for sure it will be better with the cup tyres, BUT it wont be anywhere near as good as the GT4 around that or ANY track, simple, we didnt need EVO to steel a march and tell us that and I resent them for it, but I dont generally watch many of their reviews and I certainly will watch less now.
I hope after they review the correct car, that Lotus then place them on a black list for a while... its just not professional what they did and how negative he was. It was as if he had been made to sell a porsche and buy a Lada... he wasnt happy and that was a depressing review, whether you are a lotus fan or not.....

And when I say he was made to sell a porsche, I MEAN HIS PORSCHE as he is OF COURSE a PORSCHE OWNER

Jethro Bovingdon

Bovingdon began his career as a motoring journalist and road tester at evo in May 2001. Since then he has forged a career as one of the most professional (and sideways) writers in the business. A current owner of a Porsche 996 and a modified BMW 3-series, Jethro has a deep passion for cars and...

www.evo.co.uk

A current owner of a Porsche 996 and a modified BMW 3-series, Jethro has a deep passion for cars and driving.

Some porsche drivers are really really hooked.... which I understand, but......

While we are on the subject of Porsches…why does no one mention the GT3’s 3 mile clutch pedal travel that requires an orangutans bicep to use effectively? I thought this was the reason for the Porker’s long gearing - to avoid having to change gear very often…but for some reason all the reviewers never mention it.

Want your dental work undone? Drive a GT3 on the road.

Oh and the chocolate fireguard engines that 911/Caymans have a reputation for. Not forgetting that most Caymans now sound er rubbish.

As for marketing, Porsche lead the way… selling turbo engines cars but not calling them “turbo” unless it’s a really expensive car. And their electric cars are also called turbos (the expensive ones).

Finally, walk into a Porsche showroom and see how many manual cars they have even on display. I think I’ve seen one in the past 3 years at my local official dealer. That was second hand and about £400,000 (not kidding).

And a standard 911 is really rather good and practical - and huge - with PDK.

Just to bring balance to my posts!

Leonard · Jun 10, 2022

Hedge said:
While we are on the subject of Porsches…why does no one mention the GT3’s 3 mile clutch pedal travel that requires an orangutans bicep to use effectively? I thought this was the reason for the Porker’s long gearing - to avoid having to change gear very often…but for some reason all the reviewers never mention it.

Want your dental work undone? Drive a GT3 on the road.

Oh and the chocolate fireguard engines that 911/Caymans have a reputation for. Not forgetting that most Caymans now sound er rubbish.

As for marketing, Porsche lead the way… selling turbo engines cars but not calling them “turbo” unless it’s a really expensive car. And their electric cars are also called turbos (the expensive ones).

Finally, walk into a Porsche showroom and see how many manual cars they have even on display. I think I’ve seen one in the past 3 years at my local official dealer. That was second hand and about £400,000 (not kidding).

And a standard 911 is really rather good and practical - and huge - with PDK.

Just to bring balance to my posts!

GT3 is definitely compromised for the road. A GTS is a lot better car in that respect. Its top of the tree tho and everyone wants those bragging rights! Why folk will be disappointed by the Emira reviews not being 5 star

freefall_junkie · Jun 10, 2022

Leonard said:
The gear shift is the biggest concern for me.
We have all chosen a manual car and for the shift to be compromised is a massive no go for me. I've passed over many cars in my time because the gearbox has been poor.
I've never driven an Evora or Exige before and the reviews about the gearbox was something that put me off doing so. Lotus said they were addressing it and I had every faith they would as they have significantly more resource than they have ever had before. That doesn't appear to be the case though and hence why I really do need a test drive now before I commit.
I was ready to trade my Yaris after 2 months as the shift from 3rd to 2nd was really graunchy. Fortunately it has loosened up considerably. Its those little things that I really can't get past tho

I think the gear change in the later Evoras and Exiges is actually pretty good. It isn't light and snickety - it has more of a solid mechanical feel which requires a firm hand, but if the Emira is similar or better I doubt you'd find it to be a deal breaker.

I am also thinking I need a test drive before I finally commit though, mainly to satisfy myself that the seats and driving position are up to scratch, but also that it genuinely feels to me like a Lotus. The latter is something any serial Lotus owner will know within a couple of miles. I really want to understand what potential delay a test drive will entail though. We are well into June now so I reckon it is highly likely we are just going to have to wait for dealer demos to arrive - question is what happens to our build slot in the meantime if you are supposed to be in the July batch?

Hedge · Jun 10, 2022

Leonard said:
The gear shift is the biggest concern for me.
We have all chosen a manual car and for the shift to be compromised is a massive no go for me. I've passed over many cars in my time because the gearbox has been poor.
I've never driven an Evora or Exige before and the reviews about the gearbox was something that put me off doing so. Lotus said they were addressing it and I had every faith they would as they have significantly more resource than they have ever had before. That doesn't appear to be the case though and hence why I really do need a test drive now before I commit.
I was ready to trade my Yaris after 2 months as the shift from 3rd to 2nd was really graunchy. Fortunately it has loosened up considerably. Its those little things that I really can't get past tho

The shift is simply mechanical feeling. It’s not snick snick like an MX5. But it is incredibly satisfying to me - think bolt action rifle mechanism. One of my big enjoyment factors of my 2016 S3 Exige and 2015 S3 Elise. I understand it’s slightly smoother on the Evora. Not really had much time in the seat so can’t really comment. But my friends who use them regularly like them.

So, if you want very short snick snick, it would be different to that (I think). But it is a short throw and you really will feel you’re driving a mechanical thing that loves a precise change. Which is something to enjoy about the car - character.

If you’re a track day fiend and if you fluff something else approaching a corner, then you may fluff a gear change.

Personally, I love a MX5 gearbox, but then I love the Exige/Elise’s too.

Want the last ever manual Lotus? I don’t think the gearshift will disappoint - plus you can see the wonderful mechanism.

Hedge · Jun 10, 2022

Leonard said:
GT3 is definitely compromised for the road. A GTS is a lot better car in that respect. Its top of the tree tho and everyone wants those bragging rights! Why folk will be disappointed by the Emira reviews not being 5 star

Is the clutch any easier? Less travel than a GT3 or 981 Spyder (sorry, my only frame of reference!)?

Leonard · Jun 10, 2022

Hedge said:
The shift is simply mechanical feeling. It’s not snick snick like an MX5. But it is incredibly satisfying to me - think bolt action rifle mechanism. One of my big enjoyment factors of my 2016 S3 Exige and 2015 S3 Elise. I understand it’s slightly smoother on the Evora. Not really had much time in the seat so can’t really comment. But my friends who use them regularly like them.

So, if you want very short snick snick, it would be different to that (I think). But it is a short throw and you really will feel you’re driving a mechanical thing that loves a precise change. Which is something to enjoy about the car - character.

If you’re a track day fiend and if you fluff something else approaching a corner, then you may fluff a gear change.

Personally, I love a MX5 gearbox, but then I love the Exige/Elise’s too.

Want the last ever manual Lotus? I don’t think the gearshift will disappoint - plus you can see the wonderful mechanism.

I think that's the thing isn't it, 'poor gearbox ' is open to interpretation.
Your post gives me hope though, thank you

Leonard · Jun 10, 2022

Hedge said:
Is the clutch any easier? Less travel than a GT3 or 981 Spyder (sorry, my only frame of reference!)?

Std 911/718/981 clutch and gearbox are lovely in my humble opinion. Very easy to use and slick shifting

Lots_Of_Trouble · Jun 10, 2022

Hedge said:
Want the last ever manual Lotus? I don’t think the gearshift will disappoint - plus you can see the wonderful mechanism.

I thought the exposed gear linkage wasnt happening now, due to idiots not being trusted not to put their fingers in it ?

Despite the reviewed cars having it still , but i presume this was filmed before the mention of removing it?

digilotus · Jun 10, 2022

sam041 said:
I don't think this has been posted yet but parkers (text) review below:

Lotus Emira Review (2024)

Lotus Emira (2024) in-depth review. Read our experts' views on the engine, practicality, running costs, overall performance and more.

www.parkers.co.uk

Some excellent quotes in there including

we do have a good understanding of the way this car drives now – and simply put, it’s brilliant.

So if you’re after a toy that’s as stunning to look at as a supercar yet costs an enormous amount less, the Emira has got to be worth considering very seriously. It has the performance to deliver on the promises made by that appearance, too, though it’s really the involvement and enjoyment to be had threading your way through a sequence of challenging corners that underlines the appeal of this car. This is a driving enthusiast’s machine, through-and-through

Thanks for that! I've added it to the index.

digilotus · Jun 10, 2022

Lots_Of_Trouble said:
I thought the exposed gear linkage wasnt happening now, due to idiots not being trusted not to put their fingers in it ?

Despite the reviewed cars having it still , but i presume this was filmed before the mention of removing it?

From all information so far, I understand that the Base edition car will not have the exposed shift linkage and that it might be included in an option pack. That's why Lotus had cars with the gear shift linkage covered up with a plastic cover.

The FE will definitely have an exposed mechanism (I did ask!). I suspect you will also be able to remove the grille and the leather gear boot to have a fully exposed mechanism that might also be lit up at night as part of ambient lighting in the car. How cool would that be!

Lots_Of_Trouble · Jun 10, 2022

digilotus said:
From all information so far, I understand that the Base edition car will not have the exposed shift and that it might be included in an option pack. That's why Lotus had cars with the gear linkage covered up with a plastic cover.

The FE will definitely have an exposed mechanism. I suspect you will also be able to remove the grille and the leather gear boot to have a fully exposed mechanism that might also be lit up at night as part of ambient lighting in the car. How cool would that be!

.... you had me at ambient lighting on the exposed gears....

xen · Jun 10, 2022

emiraspain said:
Yes, they either asked for it, or Porsche offered it. Either way it was very VERY poor form..... No one is afraid of the porsche competition, some of us hate them, some of us like them, but we should all certainly respect them! However, we or rather the journalists should also respect LOTUS, although they were very naive and pretty unprofessional themselves in this instance, not making certain rules themselves and enforcing them!
I know, we know, lotus will give them another car and for sure it will be better with the cup tyres, BUT it wont be anywhere near as good as the GT4 around that or ANY track, simple, we didnt need EVO to steel a march and tell us that and I resent them for it, but I dont generally watch many of their reviews and I certainly will watch less now.
I hope after they review the correct car, that Lotus then place them on a black list for a while... its just not professional what they did and how negative he was. It was as if he had been made to sell a porsche and buy a Lada... he wasnt happy and that was a depressing review, whether you are a lotus fan or not.....

And when I say he was made to sell a porsche, I MEAN HIS PORSCHE as he is OF COURSE a PORSCHE OWNER

Jethro Bovingdon

Bovingdon began his career as a motoring journalist and road tester at evo in May 2001. Since then he has forged a career as one of the most professional (and sideways) writers in the business. A current owner of a Porsche 996 and a modified BMW 3-series, Jethro has a deep passion for cars and...

www.evo.co.uk

A current owner of a Porsche 996 and a modified BMW 3-series, Jethro has a deep passion for cars and driving.

Some porsche drivers are really really hooked.... which I understand, but......

Mate, this is poor form.

You can’t make these assumptions, state them as fact and attack his credibility (as well as that of the publication) with no proof. He’s a journalist and owns a Porsche - how many don’t / haven’t? Keep in mind this same Porsche is the brand Lotus aspired to.

Leonard · Jun 10, 2022

If you read the latest copy of Evo they do have a

xen said:
Mate, this is poor form.

You can’t make these assumptions, state them as fact and attack his credibility (as well as that of the publication) with no proof. He’s a journalist and owns a Porsche - how many don’t / haven’t? Keep in mind this same Porsche is the brand Lotus aspired to.

If you read the latest copy of EVO there is a full group test happening at Anglesey Inc the GT4.
So I'd say it is happy coincidence timing wise.
At the end of the day it's not like this comparison wouldn't happen at some point!
And the car had the 'track' suspension. Lotus hadn't even mentioned different camber settings and the like with Cup 2s previously as far as I'm aware. Cup 2s make a difference to overall grip, but they don't change the inherent dynamics of the car

SJR202 · Jun 10, 2022

Not sure where things have got to in the last 10 pages since I last looked but Henry has done a road trip in EVO this month to the south of France, (hence the EVO car having sport chassis and Dunlops - Lotus worried they'd encounter bad weather on the mountain passes they wanted to drive but also didnt have the resources available to support Anglesey with the Cup tyres on the day EVO were there)

I like Henry's reviews I think he is a brilliant communicator of how a car drives, for him the review felt a little muted, like he was a little underwhelmed but trying to be positive if that makes sense. Carfection film due soon which will be interesting.

Just have to wait for production car reviews and my own test drive and the latter is the decision maker above all else

kbhoz · Jun 10, 2022

As we are chatting about suspension - I found it slightly interesting how the car moves with people just sitting in the seat. This sped up movie from last weekend shown the movement, mostly at front with one person getting in the car. This Emira is LHD. Best play at full size.

Clearest video at https://www.facebook.com/LotusMelbourne

Nick in Sydney · Jun 10, 2022

emiraspain said:
Yes, they either asked for it, or Porsche offered it. Either way it was very VERY poor form..... No one is afraid of the porsche competition, some of us hate them, some of us like them, but we should all certainly respect them! However, we or rather the journalists should also respect LOTUS, although they were very naive and pretty unprofessional themselves in this instance, not making certain rules themselves and enforcing them!

I think you are seeing a bit more "conspiracy" than really existed. Evo got the GT4 for the "Mods vs Stockers" article that appears in this week's edition (where they compare stock cars including the GT4 versus modified versions). As he said in the video, we happened to have a GT4 so we brought it along. I suspect that's what happened.

TomE · Jun 10, 2022

I agree the GT4 happened to be there at Anglesey. It was the Emira that wasn't supposed to be there.

The Emira was due back at Hethel after an EVO road trip through France to Monaco (per the print magazine), but instead of going back to Hethel they took it to Anglesey. It's not exactly a stopover on the way back!

They also didn't tell Lotus beforehand they were going to take it there, or that they had taken it there when they returned the car to Lotus. I don't know what Lotus had told the press reviewers about what they could do or not do with the cars, but we do know they asked them not to do timed 0-60 assessments. I assume there were some other restrictions or requests. It just seems a bit cloak and dagger by EVO. At least they're now going to do another test on a car with the correct tyres.

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