Final spec changes after dealer visit

[Leonard]

Same height as an Evora, lower than a Cayman. The wider front track also makes the Emira look more squat at the front than the Evora.

From the rear it looks AMAZING and really low

 

[andrew6382]

From the rear it looks AMAZING and really lowView attachment 2069

Was that taken at Central Lotus

 

[Leonard]

Was that taken at Central Lotus

It was indeed

 

[andrew6382]

It was indeed

I was ther that day..... yours being delivered there

 

[DJW]

I dont think the roofline is high at all. I'm proportion in my eyes
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Remember the blue car has been lowered and wheels spaced out wider to fill the arches, making the car look lower. This shot of the grey car on road going suspension shows the roofline to look quite high vs rest of car , kinda dumpy looking imho

Its why we need to see actual cars photographed in each colour to see the visual effect of body coloured roofs. On the configurator it doesn’t look too bad , so hopefully still the case in real life.

As ever looks are subjective , so no-one is right or wrong here

 

[Mike-engel]

Remember the blue car has been lowered and wheels spaced out wider to fill the arches, making the car look lower. This shot of the grey car on road going suspension shows the roofline to look quite high vs rest of car , kinda dumpy looking imho

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Its why we need to see actual cars photographed in each colour to see the visual effect of body coloured roofs. On the configurator it doesn’t look too bad , so hopefully still the case in real life.

As ever looks are subjective , so no-one is right or wrong here

I agree with @DJW about the need to see actual cars to get a true feel for the impact of black pack yes vs. no. And this side profile picture of the shadow gray car does evoke a couple of thoughts about the roofline. First, I think the way it peaks enhances the cab forward appearance, which is a plus for almost any super car. It reminds me a bit of Ferraris like the 360 coupe or 458 Italia. The second point is the wheels. By selecting a bright finish the eye is drawn downward particularly on a car with a darker or mor neutral color. It’s another way to visually lower the car when the roof is in body color. Darker wheels don’t necessarily do that on a dark car, but can do it when they contrast with the body color (e.g., Hethel yellow where the dark wheels look fantastic and are complimented beautifully by the upper black pack that makes the roofline disappear.

 

[TomE]

This is where a lighter colour with black pack looks visually lower. @eclat2emira posted about this before:

The great black roof dilemma...

Hi fellow Emira fans, for me the reasons for the black pack and black roof that goes with it are two-fold. 1. The black roof visually lowers the car. It definitely does this, but having seen the car in the flesh this is no longer essential for me - looks plenty low enough. 2. It is an integral...

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The grey dynamic prototype actually has slightly higher ride height than production. You can see the extra gap between the top of the front wheel and the bottom of the wheel arch.

Here is a close up of the Seneca Blue show car and the production height (on the Shanghai dealership car), so you can see the roughly 20mm height difference:

 

[TXEMIRA]

We will need to see the blue without black pack next to the one with the black pack to make a real determination for sure. Likely black pack making it look “lower” on the blue but may actually give the opposite impact on the yellow…

 

[freefall_junkie]

This is where a lighter colour with black pack looks visually lower. @eclat2emira posted about this before:

The great black roof dilemma...

Hi fellow Emira fans, for me the reasons for the black pack and black roof that goes with it are two-fold. 1. The black roof visually lowers the car. It definitely does this, but having seen the car in the flesh this is no longer essential for me - looks plenty low enough. 2. It is an integral...

www.emiraforum.com

The grey dynamic prototype actually has slightly higher ride height than production. You can see the extra gap between the top of the front wheel and the bottom of the wheel arch.

Here is a close up of the Seneca Blue show car and the production height (on the Shanghai dealership car), so you can see the roughly 20mm height difference:

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Good news that the grey car's suspension isn't production height. I always thought it looked too high. If the blue Shanghai car is prod height it looks spot on to me

 

[scoates]

This is where a lighter colour with black pack looks visually lower. @eclat2emira posted about this before:

The great black roof dilemma...

Hi fellow Emira fans, for me the reasons for the black pack and black roof that goes with it are two-fold. 1. The black roof visually lowers the car. It definitely does this, but having seen the car in the flesh this is no longer essential for me - looks plenty low enough. 2. It is an integral...

www.emiraforum.com

The grey dynamic prototype actually has slightly higher ride height than production. You can see the extra gap between the top of the front wheel and the bottom of the wheel arch.

Here is a close up of the Seneca Blue show car and the production height (on the Shanghai dealership car), so you can see the roughly 20mm height difference:

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Great to hear that the Shanghai car is production height, it looks perfect!

Also, is it just me or are the callipers a slightly different shade of yellow too, more matching the Lotus logo?

 

[Mike-engel]

Great to hear that the Shanghai car is production height, it looks perfect!

Also, is it just me or are the callipers a slightly different shade of yellow too, more matching the Lotus logo?

They seem to be, but honestly, after about an hour of driving I can’t imagine anyone noticing.

 

[CanadianEmira]

Remember the blue car has been lowered and wheels spaced out wider to fill the arches, making the car look lower. This shot of the grey car on road going suspension shows the roofline to look quite high vs rest of car , kinda dumpy looking imho

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Its why we need to see actual cars photographed in each colour to see the visual effect of body coloured roofs. On the configurator it doesn’t look too bad , so hopefully still the case in real life.

As ever looks are subjective , so no-one is right or wrong here

I find the use of spacers to be quite annoying. It’s the deliberate misrepresentation of a product they’re trying to sell.

 

[CanadianEmira]

This is where a lighter colour with black pack looks visually lower. @eclat2emira posted about this before:

The great black roof dilemma...

Hi fellow Emira fans, for me the reasons for the black pack and black roof that goes with it are two-fold. 1. The black roof visually lowers the car. It definitely does this, but having seen the car in the flesh this is no longer essential for me - looks plenty low enough. 2. It is an integral...

www.emiraforum.com

The grey dynamic prototype actually has slightly higher ride height than production. You can see the extra gap between the top of the front wheel and the bottom of the wheel arch.

Here is a close up of the Seneca Blue show car and the production height (on the Shanghai dealership car), so you can see the roughly 20mm height difference:

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This is FANTASTIC news! Quite happy with the appearance of the Shanghai car. Do you know if it has the production spacing for the wheels though?

 

[Richardofengland]

So based on configurator and photos shared to date, without seeing the car in the flesh I had narrowed down choice to :-

Yellow, red or nimbus grey​

silver wheels​

solid colour roof​

red leather interior​

leather steering wheel with red nappa inserts​

However today I made the visit to local dealer and saw the car in the flesh, plus car colour samples . Result now is:-

Red is near identical to ”fire red” apart from colour of metallic flake. Great in sunlight but too maroon for me in shade.​

nimbus grey is just a metallic silver, not a crayon grey what I was hoping for​

yellow is not metallic and…..​

the blue looked stunning for me, so I’m going that colour now​

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The diamond cut wheels looked better in flesh than configurator​

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seeing the car in the flesh I realise the roofline is quite high and I reckon a body colour finish will accentuate this. Now I’m going black pack as optically it does make roofline look lower on bright coloured cars.​

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still liked the red leather​

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So my final spec will now be :
- V6 FE Auto
- blue
- black pack
- diamond cut wheels
- sports chassis
- cup 2 tyres
- red callipers
- red leather

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Thanks exactly my spec but adding tracker. May change sport to touring due state of the uk roads. Good choice

 

[Leonard]

I was ther that day..... yours being delivered there

if factory pick up isn't an option then yes I will definitely deliver to Central

 

[TomE]

We will need to see the blue without black pack next to the one with the black pack to make a real determination for sure. Likely black pack making it look “lower” on the blue but may actually give the opposite impact on the yellow…

I think you get the same lowering effect with Hethel Yellow as eclat2emira has shown with Seneca Blue, particularly as your eye runs backwards from the top of the headlights past the A-pillar to the flank.

 

[TomE]

This is FANTASTIC news! Quite happy with the appearance of the Shanghai car. Do you know if it has the production spacing for the wheels though?

It's hard to tell from the picture but it does look like the wheel on the Shanghai car is set slightly deeper into the wheel arch, suggesting it doesn't have spacers.

 

[Tonyshepp]

if factory pick up isn't an option then yes I will definitely deliver to Central

Same here to Central.

 

[Lankan]

I think you get the same lowering effect with Hethel Yellow as eclat2emira has shown with Seneca Blue, particularly as your eye runs backwards from the top of the headlights past the A-pillar to the flank.

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Oh boy, there goes my 'almost finalised' configuration where I thought I only had to choose between the various wheel designs and suspension! Thanks, Tom.

I guess it is back to the drawing board...

Merry Christmas everyone.

 

[Eagle7]

The effect of the upper black pack is going to be different on light color versus dark colors. From a strict sideview, which is a view you'll never have unless you're sitting on the ground, it appears to visually lower the car. However, in real life, you're going to be looking at it from above the roof line, and from all kinds of angles. You'll also be seeing the interior which breaks up the effect.

The A pillar is the front one that the windshield connects to. The B pillar is in the middle, behind the edge of the front door. The C pillar is the rear one that the rear window connects to. On the Emira, visually we don't have a B pillar to speak of, and the C pillar is already sectioned off at the top. By putting the factory black pack on, it cuts the visual of the body horizontally, which gives the impression of a car that's not as tall. This effect is the most dramatic on light colors, but almost invisible on dark ones like Verdant and Shadow. The factory black pack also blacks out the top of the side mirrors, as well as the exhaust tips and rear lettering. On dark colors, this really creates a void in the back of the car as there's not much contrast. On the other hand, the lettering and exhaust tips really stand out in silver on a dark color, whereas on a light color, the lettering especially tends to almost disappear.

Here's Hethel with the factory black pack, a user-applied black pack where the side mirrors are left body color, and no black pack.

Here's the difference of the rear lettering in silver or black.

Since all of our cars are going to have the lower black pack, the main difference regardless of body color is silver or black exhaust tips.

To my eye, the silver breaks up the heaviness of the diffuser with nice size exhaust tips. On a light color car, this isn't as big an issue as it is on a dark color.

If you get the car without the factory black pack, then you have the option to color the A pillar/roof, side mirror tops, rear lettering and exhaust tips as you wish, instead of it being an all-or-nothing deal.

The other benefit is the body colored A pillar/roof enables the car to be a single shape, rather than sliced off at the top, which you may like... or not. If you do the wrap yourself, then you have the option to remove it later if you want to just change it up to be different. For FE buyers there's no cost difference with or without, so it's just a matter of aesthetics and preference.

Oh yes, and Merry Christmas to everyone as well!