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The internals are from sparco I think. Not sure they’re the same.
I know they said add lightness but i'm sure there are a few bits missing to this car?
They look more bolstered. Difficult to see from front on view. But defo more bolstered than the show car and look leaner.It wouldn't make sense for these to be the seats. Lotus said repeatedly the roadshow seats weren't the final units, and @TomE and others who visited Hethel said the seats they saw there were different from those seen in the dynamic prototype that was shown at Goodwood and the roadshow events. I sat in those at the New Jersey event and they were not great. They were pillowy, tall, fit the thighs poorly and lacked the bolster support I expected. My 2014 BMW 3 series wagon (a very "Dad" car) has better sport seats than that.
The seats in the OP's image appear identical to the "wrong/bad" prototype model, right down to the location of the seams. Surely they can't be the lower, better-bolstered, 12-way "sport" First Edition seats that we've been promised. Here are the roadshow car's seats... other than the lack of two-tone and logo, it seems to be the same as what's above.
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After studying the images, I think you may be right. Other than the color, they do look about the same. I wonder if the tan and ice seats are test samples, for training purposes to train the assembly line workers on how to set-up, install and handle the seats without damaging them. It would make sense instead of using actual production seats.It wouldn't make sense for these to be the seats. Lotus said repeatedly the roadshow seats weren't the final units, and @TomE and others who visited Hethel said the seats they saw there were different from those seen in the dynamic prototype that was shown at Goodwood and the roadshow events. I sat in those at the New Jersey event and they were not great. They were pillowy, tall, fit the thighs poorly and lacked the bolster support I expected. My 2014 BMW 3 series wagon (a very "Dad" car) has better sport seats than that.
The seats in the OP's image appear identical to the "wrong/bad" prototype model, right down to the location of the seams. Surely they can't be the lower, better-bolstered, 12-way "sport" First Edition seats that we've been promised. Here are the roadshow car's seats... other than the lack of two-tone and logo, it seems to be the same as what's above.
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Based on these photos, I can't see it. These appear to be the same seats, likely from the same supplier.They look more bolstered. Difficult to see from front on view. But defo more bolstered than the show car and look leaner.
Got a base 992 feel to them
Maybe. I don't know what to believe anymore, myself includedBased on these photos, I can't see it. These appear to be the same seats, likely from the same supplier.
We were told pretty clearly that the production seats were from a different supplier and had an improved design compared to the prototype seats which were "very not final", too tall, etc. The seat base height was also described as 20mm lower which is a ton, ergonomically speaking.
On top of all that, the configurator (even the revised one) shows seats with a visually distinct design that's slightly different from these. Three embossed seat back center marks, etc.
It looks like production line. Can't see non production seats going in now surely...?Photos are fine, we just need the context of what we're looking at.
They may be for training, since they're adding a second shift.It looks like production line. Can't see non production seats going in now surely...?
HmmmmmThey may be for training, since they're adding a second shift.
Hahaha I read this as “the people will be in class learning and sitting in these during their training” hahahaHmmmmm
I mean, I'm the one that is in that conversation. Are you trying to point something out?
Could be a possibility with the tan seat that they are for training , but the ice colored white/grey seats behind still have the plastic covers and also have the large paper production tag/paper also attached, ..... so most likely the ice grey seats are not for training and yet they seem identical to the tan seat in front.They may be for training, since they're adding a second shift.
I literally just walked out of the Lotus Cars HQ after talking in detail to the the Australian Lotus Cars Director. He attended Hethel only 3 weeks ago, and I could see the joy in what he saw whilst there. Such a stellar guy whom I’ve had the pleasure of knowing for a while in owning a couple of Lotus cars prior. I could have chatted for hours but was only there for 20mins and had to dash.It looks like the tan seat is hooked up to some kind of platform rig; probably to test out the adjustments to make sure they work properly.
What I meant for training was they could be using these for trainees to practice installing seats in a car on the production line. They've got to learn how to do that at some point. Maybe Lotus just wanted seats in all the sample colors, just to see the colors.
When you look at the side bolsters of the seat back, that one area pointing to the camera, it looks lumpy. Upon closer examination, these don't look like production seats. The fit and finish looks like mock-up quality.
No course not. Simply if it is a photo of the production line from this weekI mean, I'm the one that is in that conversation. Are you trying to point something out?
Pretty weird for the guy to act like I was criticizing him personally, though. I'm just scratching my head about the fact that the seats in his photo aren't materially different from what we've all seen a thousand times since last July, and that's not what we've been led to expect.