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Who has done their own oil change on the Emira I4 /AMG? If so, can you post your process and experience In doing so? Tons of info on the V6 oil changes…..haven’t seen this on the AMG version.
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I4 Emira Turbo/AMG DIY oil changes?
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Anyone out there that has done their own i4 AMG oil change? I know it would be other regions of the world
that have had the AMG version……
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Agree, I think it should be straight forward, but always nice to watch a video on someone doing it before you do one yourself.
Just saw this thread...
Here is some information:
Engine oil, Mercedes 229.71
Mercedes part number A000 989 34 09/11ABAW, in 1 litre bottles. Price does not decrease if you purchase 5 litres in a single container.
Oil Filter :
Mercedes part number A176 180 08 00 (found by Mercedes using my engine number as a reference)
Sump gasket (aluminium seal)
Mercedes part number N007603 014106
Torque settings
Filter housing 25 N.m ( printed on housing, if my memory serves me well)
Sump Plug 4̶0̶N̶.̶m̶ 30N.m correction as suggested by @gcmak .
Should be possible without removing the rear black diffuser. Note all screwwsare not the same lenght, and the Workshop manual does not give the correct information on screw to be removed.
Neil
Here is some information:
Engine oil, Mercedes 229.71
Mercedes part number A000 989 34 09/11ABAW, in 1 litre bottles. Price does not decrease if you purchase 5 litres in a single container.
Oil Filter :
Mercedes part number A176 180 08 00 (found by Mercedes using my engine number as a reference)
Sump gasket (aluminium seal)
Mercedes part number N007603 014106
Torque settings
Filter housing 25 N.m ( printed on housing, if my memory serves me well)
Sump Plug 4̶0̶N̶.̶m̶ 30N.m correction as suggested by @gcmak .
Should be possible without removing the rear black diffuser. Note all screwwsare not the same lenght, and the Workshop manual does not give the correct information on screw to be removed.
Neil
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Great information, thank you. Do you happen to have a photo of the location of the filter?
Nice - looks like the filter housing has a drain plug.
I just went through this with my Mercedes E550: choosing a new engine oil, since I do my own oil/filter changes on all my vehicles. I'll post this in case it helps others.
Mercedes has a fluid guide, based upon the type of engine. You can reference it here:
Looking at the Emira User's Manual (page 278; attached below, for your convenience; sorry for the sideways orientation), it lists the recommended fluids for the V4 turbo. As indicated by Neil D. above, one recommended engine oil is 0W-20 and Mercedes spec 229.71.
If you want to choose a different oil than the Mercedes brand, you will find a list of suitable oils in the Mercedes fluid guide. Go to the webpage referenced above, choose "Operating Fluids - Cars", then "Engine Oil", then go to the 229.71 "sheet"/spec section. That will take you here, which gives a long list of other oils that Mercedes deems suitable for this AMG M139 engine:
You'll see it has the MB229.71 spec oil, as expected. Amongst the other brands listed, you'll find "QUARTZ INEO XTRA C5 0W-20". The Emira manual mentions "Total INEO XTRA EC5" oil as the "approved product" for the Lotus V4 AMG engine. The "Total" is the same manufacturer as "Quartz": the oil is made in France. I'm not sure why the manual describes it as "EC5" whereas the 229.71 spec lists it as "C5" and suspect it's the same oil but listed with an up-to-date description in the Emira manual (?). You'd have to check with your local Total distributor, to be sure.
Finally, in my quest to find reasonable prices and my preference to use exactly what the manufacturer recommends in the vehicle manual, and seeing Lotus recommended a "Total Quartz 9000 Energy (fully-synthetic)" for my V6 Emira, I located a local distributor/wholesaler who sold the Total brand (which surprised me, since I'm in Canada and the oil is made in France). I negotiated on the price of 5 cases and paid approximately Can$10/litre (including all taxes and environmental fees) for the 5 litre jugs. This is about at least 50% to two-thirds cheaper than my Lotus dealer's charge for oil. This is why I'm suggesting you consider other acceptable brands of oil and not simply the Mercedes 229.71 spec, since Mercedes typically charges high rates, due to its brand name. You may save a good amount of money by finding a local distributor/wholesaler selling other types of suitable oil. Or if you know other Lotus V4 owners, perhaps join forces and organize a "group buy" for engine oil, to give you more negotiating power on pricing. Even if you don't do your own oil/filter changes, you could at least supply the oil to your dealer, to save the oil cost. Most dealers will accept customer oil, if it's the correct type. Food for thought and good luck!
PS: for other M139 engine specs, I found this in my recent travels when researching for this post:
Mercedes has a fluid guide, based upon the type of engine. You can reference it here:
Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids
The Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids provide you with an overview of the requirements for the operating fluids and for the recommended products. Operating Fluids are products necessary for Mercedes-vehicles / major assemblies, e.g. fuel, engine oil, gear oil, ATF, brake fluid...
bevo.mercedes-benz.com
Looking at the Emira User's Manual (page 278; attached below, for your convenience; sorry for the sideways orientation), it lists the recommended fluids for the V4 turbo. As indicated by Neil D. above, one recommended engine oil is 0W-20 and Mercedes spec 229.71.
If you want to choose a different oil than the Mercedes brand, you will find a list of suitable oils in the Mercedes fluid guide. Go to the webpage referenced above, choose "Operating Fluids - Cars", then "Engine Oil", then go to the 229.71 "sheet"/spec section. That will take you here, which gives a long list of other oils that Mercedes deems suitable for this AMG M139 engine:
Mercedes-Benz Operating Fluids
Publication platform for approved operating fluids from Mercedes-Benz
operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com
You'll see it has the MB229.71 spec oil, as expected. Amongst the other brands listed, you'll find "QUARTZ INEO XTRA C5 0W-20". The Emira manual mentions "Total INEO XTRA EC5" oil as the "approved product" for the Lotus V4 AMG engine. The "Total" is the same manufacturer as "Quartz": the oil is made in France. I'm not sure why the manual describes it as "EC5" whereas the 229.71 spec lists it as "C5" and suspect it's the same oil but listed with an up-to-date description in the Emira manual (?). You'd have to check with your local Total distributor, to be sure.
Finally, in my quest to find reasonable prices and my preference to use exactly what the manufacturer recommends in the vehicle manual, and seeing Lotus recommended a "Total Quartz 9000 Energy (fully-synthetic)" for my V6 Emira, I located a local distributor/wholesaler who sold the Total brand (which surprised me, since I'm in Canada and the oil is made in France). I negotiated on the price of 5 cases and paid approximately Can$10/litre (including all taxes and environmental fees) for the 5 litre jugs. This is about at least 50% to two-thirds cheaper than my Lotus dealer's charge for oil. This is why I'm suggesting you consider other acceptable brands of oil and not simply the Mercedes 229.71 spec, since Mercedes typically charges high rates, due to its brand name. You may save a good amount of money by finding a local distributor/wholesaler selling other types of suitable oil. Or if you know other Lotus V4 owners, perhaps join forces and organize a "group buy" for engine oil, to give you more negotiating power on pricing. Even if you don't do your own oil/filter changes, you could at least supply the oil to your dealer, to save the oil cost. Most dealers will accept customer oil, if it's the correct type. Food for thought and good luck!
PS: for other M139 engine specs, I found this in my recent travels when researching for this post:
Engine specifications for Mercedes M139, characteristics, oil, performance
The 2.0-liter turbo engine of the Mercedes AMG M139 has been assembled at a German plant since 2019 and is installed on AMG versions of models with a transverse or longitudinal arrangement of the unit. There are hybrid modifications with electric motors of 14 hp / 150 Nm and 204 hp / 320 Nm. R4
mymotorlist.com
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Incredible information!! Thank you! The Mercedes-Benz Operating Fluids site is easily navigated, and provides good guidance, as I was trying to match the standards from the manual, but the MB site gives plenty of options on vendors..
Top work. This is fantastic. Just the reason forums like this exist. I personally don’t have need for this, having 50% more cylinders than the AMG, but i appreciate the time taken to spread your knowledge.I just went through this with my Mercedes E550: choosing a new engine oil, since I do my own oil/filter changes on all my vehicles. I'll post this in case it helps others.
Mercedes has a fluid guide, based upon the type of engine. You can reference it here:
Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids
The Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids provide you with an overview of the requirements for the operating fluids and for the recommended products. Operating Fluids are products necessary for Mercedes-vehicles / major assemblies, e.g. fuel, engine oil, gear oil, ATF, brake fluid...bevo.mercedes-benz.com
Looking at the Emira User's Manual (page 278; attached below, for your convenience; sorry for the sideways orientation), it lists the recommended fluids for the V4 turbo. As indicated by Neil D. above, one recommended engine oil is 0W-20 and Mercedes spec 229.71.
If you want to choose a different oil than the Mercedes brand, you will find a list of suitable oils in the Mercedes fluid guide. Go to the webpage referenced above, choose "Operating Fluids - Cars", then "Engine Oil", then go to the 229.71 "sheet"/spec section. That will take you here, which gives a long list of other oils that Mercedes deems suitable for this AMG M139 engine:
Mercedes-Benz Operating Fluids
Publication platform for approved operating fluids from Mercedes-Benzoperatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com
You'll see it has the MB229.71 spec oil, as expected. Amongst the other brands listed, you'll find "QUARTZ INEO XTRA C5 0W-20". The Emira manual mentions "Total INEO XTRA EC5" oil as the "approved product" for the Lotus V4 AMG engine. The "Total" is the same manufacturer as "Quartz": the oil is made in France. I'm not sure why the manual describes it as "EC5" whereas the 229.71 spec lists it as "C5" and suspect it's the same oil but listed with an up-to-date description in the Emira manual (?). You'd have to check with your local Total distributor, to be sure.
Finally, in my quest to find reasonable prices and my preference to use exactly what the manufacturer recommends in the vehicle manual, and seeing Lotus recommended a "Total Quartz 9000 Energy (fully-synthetic)" for my V6 Emira, I located a local distributor/wholesaler who sold the Total brand (which surprised me, since I'm in Canada and the oil is made in France). I negotiated on the price of 5 cases and paid approximately Can$10/litre (including all taxes and environmental fees) for the 5 litre jugs. This is about at least 50% to two-thirds cheaper than my Lotus dealer's charge for oil. This is why I'm suggesting you consider other acceptable brands of oil and not simply the Mercedes 229.71 spec, since Mercedes typically charges high rates, due to its brand name. You may save a good amount of money by finding a local distributor/wholesaler selling other types of suitable oil. Or if you know other Lotus V4 owners, perhaps join forces and organize a "group buy" for engine oil, to give you more negotiating power on pricing. Even if you don't do your own oil/filter changes, you could at least supply the oil to your dealer, to save the oil cost. Most dealers will accept customer oil, if it's the correct type. Food for thought and good luck!
PS: for other M139 engine specs, I found this in my recent travels when researching for this post:
Engine specifications for Mercedes M139, characteristics, oil, performance
The 2.0-liter turbo engine of the Mercedes AMG M139 has been assembled at a German plant since 2019 and is installed on AMG versions of models with a transverse or longitudinal arrangement of the unit. There are hybrid modifications with electric motors of 14 hp / 150 Nm and 204 hp / 320 Nm. R4mymotorlist.com
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Hey, for those that want a good available oil in USA that meets the MB229.71 spec…. The Mobil 1 ESP X2 0w-20.I just went through this with my Mercedes E550: choosing a new engine oil, since I do my own oil/filter changes on all my vehicles. I'll post this in case it helps others.
Mercedes has a fluid guide, based upon the type of engine. You can reference it here:
Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids
The Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids provide you with an overview of the requirements for the operating fluids and for the recommended products. Operating Fluids are products necessary for Mercedes-vehicles / major assemblies, e.g. fuel, engine oil, gear oil, ATF, brake fluid...bevo.mercedes-benz.com
Looking at the Emira User's Manual (page 278; attached below, for your convenience; sorry for the sideways orientation), it lists the recommended fluids for the V4 turbo. As indicated by Neil D. above, one recommended engine oil is 0W-20 and Mercedes spec 229.71.
If you want to choose a different oil than the Mercedes brand, you will find a list of suitable oils in the Mercedes fluid guide. Go to the webpage referenced above, choose "Operating Fluids - Cars", then "Engine Oil", then go to the 229.71 "sheet"/spec section. That will take you here, which gives a long list of other oils that Mercedes deems suitable for this AMG M139 engine:
Mercedes-Benz Operating Fluids
Publication platform for approved operating fluids from Mercedes-Benzoperatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com
You'll see it has the MB229.71 spec oil, as expected. Amongst the other brands listed, you'll find "QUARTZ INEO XTRA C5 0W-20". The Emira manual mentions "Total INEO XTRA EC5" oil as the "approved product" for the Lotus V4 AMG engine. The "Total" is the same manufacturer as "Quartz": the oil is made in France. I'm not sure why the manual describes it as "EC5" whereas the 229.71 spec lists it as "C5" and suspect it's the same oil but listed with an up-to-date description in the Emira manual (?). You'd have to check with your local Total distributor, to be sure.
Finally, in my quest to find reasonable prices and my preference to use exactly what the manufacturer recommends in the vehicle manual, and seeing Lotus recommended a "Total Quartz 9000 Energy (fully-synthetic)" for my V6 Emira, I located a local distributor/wholesaler who sold the Total brand (which surprised me, since I'm in Canada and the oil is made in France). I negotiated on the price of 5 cases and paid approximately Can$10/litre (including all taxes and environmental fees) for the 5 litre jugs. This is about at least 50% to two-thirds cheaper than my Lotus dealer's charge for oil. This is why I'm suggesting you consider other acceptable brands of oil and not simply the Mercedes 229.71 spec, since Mercedes typically charges high rates, due to its brand name. You may save a good amount of money by finding a local distributor/wholesaler selling other types of suitable oil. Or if you know other Lotus V4 owners, perhaps join forces and organize a "group buy" for engine oil, to give you more negotiating power on pricing. Even if you don't do your own oil/filter changes, you could at least supply the oil to your dealer, to save the oil cost. Most dealers will accept customer oil, if it's the correct type. Food for thought and good luck!
PS: for other M139 engine specs, I found this in my recent travels when researching for this post:
Engine specifications for Mercedes M139, characteristics, oil, performance
The 2.0-liter turbo engine of the Mercedes AMG M139 has been assembled at a German plant since 2019 and is installed on AMG versions of models with a transverse or longitudinal arrangement of the unit. There are hybrid modifications with electric motors of 14 hp / 150 Nm and 204 hp / 320 Nm. R4mymotorlist.com
*** (Have to make sure it’s the X2)***
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AMSOIL's 229.71 flavor:
AMSOIL 0W-20 LS
Also the WIX cross reference number for the filter is WL10399 for those looking for an aftermarket option.
AMSOIL 0W-20 LS
Also the WIX cross reference number for the filter is WL10399 for those looking for an aftermarket option.
Your included shop manual instructions mention replacing the seal for both the oil plug and the oil filter housing. Does anyone know the part number for the second seal?
I could be wrong but I think the oil filter housing seal refers to the large o-ring typically included with the oil filter.
Thanks. Right, I see that the O-ring is included with the filter from parts listings on-line.
I went to my local Lotus dealership to get the filter and oil plug seal for my DIY, 1K mile, oil change. The dealership had not performed an oil change on an I4 Emira yet, so they did not have the filter in stock. But they offered to order one at the cost of $125! I said no thanks without inquiring about the sump gasket.
So, I went to the Mercedes dealership down the street armed with the part numbers that Neil D. provided above. Both parts were in stock: Oil filter $28 and washer $5. You can find the equivalent parts online for less by searching on the Mercedes numbers. But I wanted the first oil change to be by the book.
BTW, I refilled with AMSOIL product code AFEQT-EA (as mentioned above by Madimira.) I use AMSOIL in all my sports cars. Look into their preferred customer program to save a lot of money if you change your own oil.
I would also recommend that you buy a 27mm oil filter socket (see picture) before you start. It is important to torque the filter housing back onto the engine correctly.
Finally, here is a picture of all but 3 bolts you must remove to take the diffuser off to get to the engine. There are 3 more bolts under the rubber plugs that I found after taking this picture. A lift is very helpful to use with this process, too.
So, I went to the Mercedes dealership down the street armed with the part numbers that Neil D. provided above. Both parts were in stock: Oil filter $28 and washer $5. You can find the equivalent parts online for less by searching on the Mercedes numbers. But I wanted the first oil change to be by the book.
BTW, I refilled with AMSOIL product code AFEQT-EA (as mentioned above by Madimira.) I use AMSOIL in all my sports cars. Look into their preferred customer program to save a lot of money if you change your own oil.
I would also recommend that you buy a 27mm oil filter socket (see picture) before you start. It is important to torque the filter housing back onto the engine correctly.
Finally, here is a picture of all but 3 bolts you must remove to take the diffuser off to get to the engine. There are 3 more bolts under the rubber plugs that I found after taking this picture. A lift is very helpful to use with this process, too.
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