Are rear Emira OEM wheels really ET54mm??

[lynchy73]

I got the follow information regards the OEM wheels:
Front: 8.5x20 ET 57
Rear: 10.5x20 ET 54

is this correct?

I was running 12mm spacers, so that means an effective ET45 on front and ET42 on rear.


Spec’d new custom wheels based on the above, but new rears are poking out way more than they should. Fronts are about where they should be.

Checked the OEM wheels and got circa 295mm width and 210mm inside rim to hub. This comes out to the below:
210-(295/2)=62.5mm offset (not 54mm)

I didn’t have a suitable sized caliper to check the OEM and new wheels accurately today, but I’m pretty sure any errors in the above will be minimal.

Has anyone else actually measured the OEM wheels, or seen other data?

 

[silent cilantro]

I got the follow information regards the OEM wheels:
Front: 8.5x20 ET 57
Rear: 10.5x20 ET 54

is this correct?

I was running 12mm spacers, so that means an effective ET45 on front and ET42 on rear.


Spec’d new custom wheels based on the above, but new rears are poking out way more than they should. Fronts are about where they should be.

Checked the OEM wheels and got circa 295mm width and 210mm inside rim to hub. This comes out to the below:
210-(295/2)=62.5mm offset (not 54mm)

I didn’t have a suitable sized caliper to check the OEM and new wheels accurately today, but I’m pretty sure any errors in the above will be minimal.

Has anyone else actually measured the OEM wheels, or seen other data?

I think I remember reading on another thread you went with 1/2in wider than OEM. If so, that would be why. If you add a little camber you could prob get them to tuck in a bit.

 

[Nova]

You need to drop the car from the lift before the wheels will "sit" right. Trust us, it will tuck in to flush both front and rear. I am running 47mm/42mm front/rear and it's perfectly flush.

Edit: just read what @silent cilantro said and if your wheels are .5" wider overall, the tire will also show up slightly wider by a few mm, not a lot though, and not the full 6mm.

 

[675430VME]

I got the follow information regards the OEM wheels:
Front: 8.5x20 ET 57
Rear: 10.5x20 ET 54

is this correct?

I was running 12mm spacers, so that means an effective ET45 on front and ET42 on rear.


Spec’d new custom wheels based on the above, but new rears are poking out way more than they should. Fronts are about where they should be.

Checked the OEM wheels and got circa 295mm width and 210mm inside rim to hub. This comes out to the below:
210-(295/2)=62.5mm offset (not 54mm)

I didn’t have a suitable sized caliper to check the OEM and new wheels accurately today, but I’m pretty sure any errors in the above will be minimal.

Has anyone else actually measured the OEM wheels, or seen other data?

Emira Turbo is 57/64

 

[lynchy73]

I think I remember reading on another thread you went with 1/2 wider than OEM. If so, that would be why. If you are a little camber you could prob get them to tuck in a bit.

Yes, but that was all taken into account when the wheels were spec’d.

Including spacers, I should have rears pushed out 3mm reference where I was

 

[lynchy73]

Emira Turbo is 57/64

That’s what i figured, the info is wrong. I estimated about 62mm on the rear

 

[lynchy73]

You need to drop the car from the lift before the wheels will "sit" right. Trust us, it will tuck in to flush both front and rear. I am running 47mm/42mm front/rear and it's perfectly flush.

I did and no it doesn’t fix it. It looks shit. As the info is out by 10mm, that lines up with what I have observed

 

[lynchy73]

I did and no it doesn’t fix it. It looks shit. As the info is out by 10mm, that lines up with what I have observed

These are the alignments when you start with ET64 (minus 12 for spacers). Poking out 13mm more than before.

 

[silent cilantro]

ah I wasn’t aware it’s an i4. I also didn’t know i4s have different offsets in the rear. TIL.

 

[lynchy73]

ah I wasn’t aware it’s an i4. I also didn’t know i4s have different offsets in the rear. TIL.

Yes an I4. First I ever heard of it too. I measured it with a tape measure. It wasn’t a perfect measurement, but I came up with about ET62, which is why I asked. The new wheels are about what was ordered. Point is, the order was based on wrong data (10mm wrong) and it was already quite aggressive, so 10mm extra = ridiculous/shit

 

[Porter]

Yes an I4. First I ever heard of it too. I measured it with a tape measure. It wasn’t a perfect measurement, but I came up with about ET62, which is why I asked. The new wheels are about what was ordered. Point is, the order was based on wrong data (10mm wrong) and it was already quite aggressive, so 10mm extra = ridiculous/shit

The Emira V6 and Emira I4 Turbo have completely different rear suspension setups and use different rear wheels.

The specs you quoted at the top of the thread are for the V6. Your measured spec as you said is pretty close to the quoted factory spec for the I4.

I think this is just a case of mounting a V6 fitment wheel on an I4 car. It's always going to stick out like that.

 

[675430VME]

I got the follow information regards the OEM wheels:
Front: 8.5x20 ET 57
Rear: 10.5x20 ET 54

is this correct?

I was running 12mm spacers, so that means an effective ET45 on front and ET42 on rear.


Spec’d new custom wheels based on the above, but new rears are poking out way more than they should. Fronts are about where they should be.

Checked the OEM wheels and got circa 295mm width and 210mm inside rim to hub. This comes out to the below:
210-(295/2)=62.5mm offset (not 54mm)

I didn’t have a suitable sized caliper to check the OEM and new wheels accurately today, but I’m pretty sure any errors in the above will be minimal.

Has anyone else actually measured the OEM wheels, or seen other data?

Emira Turbo is 57/64

That’s what i figured, the info is wrong. I estimated about 62mm on the rear

The info you found online was from the V6 owners. You should have wechat me lol

 

[lynchy73]

The Emira V6 and Emira I4 Turbo have completely different rear suspension setups and use different rear wheels.

The specs you quoted at the top of the thread are for the V6. Your measured spec as you said is pretty close to the quoted factory spec for the I4.

I think this is just a case of mounting a V6 fitment wheel on an I4 car. It's always going to stick out like that.

You talk like it’s common knowledge the rear wheel offset is different on the I4 version. Show me where that is stated anywhere?

I’m aware the rear subframe is different, that doesn’t automatically mean the rear wheels will also have a different offset.

 

[lynchy73]

Emira Turbo is 57/64

The info you found online was from the V6 owners. You should have wechat me lol

Cool, but it ain’t that funny

 

[Nova]

I did and no it doesn’t fix it. It looks shit. As the info is out by 10mm, that lines up with what I have observed

Sorry to hear about that... maybe you can find a V6 owner to take the wheels?

 

[lynchy73]

Emira Turbo is 57/64

The info you found online was from the V6 owners. You should have wechat me lol

That’s the info provided by the supplier, listed on their website and they sell plenty of I4 parts. Zero mention of I4/V6 specific values on the rear wheels

 

[lynchy73]

Sorry to hear about that... maybe you can find a V6 owner to take the wheels?

I ain’t getting into that. The supplier provided wrong data

 

[Porter]

You talk like it’s common knowledge the rear wheel offset is different on the I4 version. Show me where that is stated anywhere?

I’m aware the rear subframe is different, that doesn’t automatically mean the rear wheels will also have a different offset.

I totally get that you're irritated, I would be too. I wasn't trying to rub salt in the wound.

Just an FYI going forward, many factory wheels have the size and offset information printed on the inside of the wheel or sometimes on the inner mounting surface. The Emira definitely does, and it also has the manufacturer info (Dicastal).

Inside front wheel:

Take a look and see if your factory wheels have this in the rear. If they do, take a pic and we will add it to one of the wheel spec threads here so someone else doesn't get nailed by the same issue.

I'm going to proactively edit a few threads to clarify, hope you can also grab a pic.

 

[lynchy73]

I totally get that you're irritated, I would be too. I wasn't trying to rub salt in the wound.

Just an FYI going forward, many factory wheels have the size and offset information printed on the inside of the wheel or sometimes on the inner mounting surface. The Emira definitely does, and it also has the manufacturer info (Dicastal).

Inside front wheel:
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Take a look and see if your factory wheels have this in the rear. If they do, take a pic and we will add it to one of the wheel spec threads here so someone else doesn't get nailed by the same issue.

I'm going to proactively edit a few threads to clarify, hope you can also grab a pic.

I looked today, couldn’t see an ET value stated. I was looking when I realised something wasn’t right and was trying to figure out what the issue might be. Will take a picture tomorrow.

That will teach me to trust information that is stated everywhere on the internet, from the supplier and this forum too.

 

[Porter]

I looked today, couldn’t see an ET value stated. I was looking when I realised something wasn’t right and was trying to figure out what the issue might be. Will take a picture tomorrow.

That will teach me to trust information that is stated everywhere on the internet, from the supplier and this forum too.

I think that those of us who placed early orders, which were all V6, have developed a kind of "spec blindness" about the car because we quite enthusiastically gathered all these specifications and info for years, exclusively on the V6 car. So that became the default "Emira" in most of our minds. It's very obviously not the case now, but we have a multi-year hangover of info and content here that needs to be refined or updated slightly.

I'm going to do what I can to clarify differences between the cars going forward, to hopefully help the next person who is in your shoes to avoid the pain you've gone through with this. Sorry again about it, I know it's frustrating.