Hill Hold Assist - Is Mine Working?

[geoffbland]

I got a V6 manual Emira several weeks ago; I am not sure hill hold assist is working at all?

From my understanding, from the manual and reading this forum, if I have clutch in and foot on brake, then when I release the foot brake the electronic hand brake is meant to come on for 2 seconds or until I apply throttle.

In normal driving I’m always on the biting point to hold the car so it’s not really an issue. But when I try to test it, the car never seems to hold, on any hill I immediately start rolling back once I lift off the brake.

Also, three times I’ve had the car seem to unexpectedly brake as I pull away but this has only happened on a flat road, possibly I just stalled the car but I’m sure I’ve seen the handbrake light flicker when this happens.

I’m not sure what to make of all this.

Does the handbrake light come on when hill-hold is active?

Is there a setting that turns off hill-hold assist that I am missing?

What type of steepness of hill does hill-hold need to activate?

 

[Blackthought_]

When on a hill (needs to be kinda steep, little hills tend not to trigger the auto hood), do you have the car in 1st gear? If so, it should hold for 2 seconds. It doesn’t hold when the gear is in neutral

 

[geoffbland]

When on a hill (needs to be kinda steep, little hills tend not to trigger the auto hood), do you have the car in 1st gear? If so, it should hold for 2 seconds. It doesn’t hold when the gear is in neutral

Thanks for the reply.

Car is in first ready to pull away. The hills I've tested on are steep enough for the car to start rolling backwards immediately but admittedly not really steep. I can see if I can find a really steep hill somewhere and try the test again.

 

[geoffbland]

Just re-reading the manual and I can see that on the images of the tour and sports main dash panel there's a square, green auto-hold icon, although this is not mentioned anywhere in the text. I have never seen this illuminate.

 

[Aero]

Mine sometimes works and sometimes doesnt backing into the garage with a slight incline. Its random. Not sure on steeper inclines as it also seems intermittent.
There is no light (on the manual v6) that comes on like in other cars to say its working/active. I dont believe you can turn it off or would have.

 

[SuperchargedLotus]

Wasn’t aware this was a thing on the Emira. It’s never worked on my V6 manual.

 

[Aero]

Just re-reading the manual and I can see that on the images of the tour and sports main dash panel there's a square, green auto-hold icon, although this is not mentioned anywhere in the text. I have never seen this illuminate.

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I think that is an automatic car in manual mode in 3rd gear. I had to go check. Never noticed that light on my manual car.

 

[Six Speed Stephen]

But if you turn on hill hold assist, how will anyone know your car is manual?

 

[geoffbland]

Wasn’t aware this was a thing on the Emira. It’s never worked on my V6 manual.

I assume it is a thing on the Emira - at least according to the manual and also the other threads on here about the opposite problem of their hill-hold assist not releasing.

 

[SuperchargedLotus]

I assume it is a thing on the Emira - at least according to the manual and also the other threads on here about the opposite problem of their hill-hold assist not releasing.

It’s just a feature normally found on auto’s so wouldn’t have expected it on a manual…. Might have to have a play tomorrow and see

 

[centerpunch]

My GR Corolla 6-speed had that feature, and there was no way to turn it off. I hated it.

 

[Beachbum]

My 14yr old Kia Sportage has it and its a manual. Its OK'ish. Sometimes doesnt engage when you expect it to and other times doesnt release when it should, although its never held for too long, just a second.
My I4 definitely has it

 

[geoffbland]

OK I went out testing today and found a steep hill to test it on - and found my hill hold assist is working fine.

- It needs to be a fairly steep hill
- You need to be in 1st gear, clutch in and foot on brake
- You need to be stationary
- Take your foot off the brake
- The car is held on the brakes for 2-3 seconds or until you press the throttle
- There is no light indicating hill hold assist is active

So it seems to be working as advertised (on a V6 manual), I'm not sure why it didn't seem to be working on my previous testing as I can get it to happen now with practice - I guess I wasn't doing one of the above or I was too quick to balance on clutch and throttle to notice it before; in practice it is quite subtle and I think in "normal" driving I would rarely use it.

 

[NorCalEmira]

OK I went out testing today and found a steep hill to test it on - and found my hill hold assist is working fine.

- It needs to be a fairly steep hill
- You need to be in 1st gear, clutch in and foot on brake
- You need to be stationary
- Take your foot off the brake
- The car is held on the brakes for 2-3 seconds or until you press the throttle

So it seems to be working as advertised (on a V6 manual), I'm not sure why it didn't seem to be working on my previous testing as I can get it to happen now with practice - I guess I wasn't doing one of the above or I was too quick to balance on clutch and throttle to notice it before; in practice it is quite subtle and I think in "normal" driving I would rarely use it.

My V6 manual hill hold works exactly as you describe

 

[Blackthought_]

OK I went out testing today and found a steep hill to test it on - and found my hill hold assist is working fine.

- It needs to be a fairly steep hill
- You need to be in 1st gear, clutch in and foot on brake
- You need to be stationary
- Take your foot off the brake
- The car is held on the brakes for 2-3 seconds or until you press the throttle

So it seems to be working as advertised (on a V6 manual), I'm not sure why it didn't seem to be working on my previous testing as I can get it to happen now with practice - I guess I wasn't doing one of the above or I was too quick to balance on clutch and throttle to notice it before; in practice it is quite subtle and I think in "normal" driving I would rarely use it.

Glad to hear you figured it out!

 

[Raspuk]

I have had mine into the dealer twice for this not working turns out you just have to push the brake quite hard! The pedal goes hard if its worked
Seems to release ok too
i have the latest update now 1.7 i think