How many crossed shopped the GT4?

[digilotus]

If that is the case, go buy a GT4RS immediately

It’s almost double the cost of an Emira here. A cool $350k without options!

 

[Leonard]

I didn't cross shop at all.

The Emira was the closest thing to my M2 Competition - similar size if not smaller, which I like, similar power, 6MT available, amazing exterior/interior design, etc.

I have never liked the Boxster/Cayman - taste is subjective, but it's a really ugly car to me. Drove a few of them before and it also really didn't wow me; even during full WOT, the engine/exhaust sounds terrible.

Really? How is this ugly you heathen
I also thought it was one of the best sounding 6 cylinders going

 

[Leonard]

It’s almost double the cost of an Emira here. A cool $350k without options!

Yeah well that would do it lol. Nice to have the option though

 

[emiraspain]

Must be region specific. I have no issue with ordering whatever Porsche model I would want (eg GT4RS) in Australia and I’ve never bought or owned one before.

yes..it varies from place to place, but if I am not mistaken, so does the price and in your country, the price is pretty high, hence demand far less than in the UK where the GT3 is for example probably as cheap as almost any other part of the world, where they actually pay a value added tax..... far far cheaper in UK than most of EU for example. And in the US, prices are always quoted before taxes, in UK, always after taxes...
I could not get a GT3 in the UK, but could get one in Spain... also about 60% more expensive though.. hence desire less strong

 

[Cwolf]

Yes, I considered the GT4. I have had two 911's. The GT4's tall gearing was a deal killer. What good is a manual if you can't really use it?

 

[digilotus]

Yes, I considered the GT4. I have had two 911's. The GT4's tall gearing was a deal killer. What good is a manual if you can't really use it?

Agree. It’s passable, but the tall gearing of the GT4 manual takes a lot of the enjoyment out of it.

Around town its basically a 2 speed manual with 4 overdrive gears LoL

I’m glad that the Emira has more sensible (almost perfect) gearing.

 

[emiraspain]

Yes, I considered the GT4. I have had two 911's. The GT4's tall gearing was a deal killer. What good is a manual if you can't really use it?

yes... it would be like an automatic with two gears.. haha

 

[4380r]

Really? How is this ugly you heathen
I also thought it was one of the best sounding 6 cylinders going

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I wouldn't say it's ugly, just wouldn't draw a second look from me. The Porsche 'design language' is all over the place and unless one is a Porschphile, they all pretty much look the same.

 

[ksegg]

Really? How is this ugly you heathen
I also thought it was one of the best sounding 6 cylinders going

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Haha, just my preference. Cut to the 3/4th rear view and it's mehhhh. The rear of the car was always its weakness. It's NOT a 550 Spyder so I still don't know why Porsche tried to take rear cues from it.

I mean to each their own; the last time I drove a 718, there wasn't any drama to it. No cracks, pops, brapapapapapapapapa sounds followed with a kick in the pants speed.

The 718 is a surgeon's scapel, and what I was shopping for instead, was a chainsaw.

That was the biggest reason I went with an M2 Comp. Dynamically it's not as precise as a 718, but an M2 Comp is so much fun to drive.

I think generally, that's the kind of cars I like. Not perfect in any way, but just puts a HUGE smile on my face when I drive it. I imagine that's how the Emira will be.

I think that's also why I love Ferrari's more than Porsche's. Ferrari's are pretty flawed, but man alive.......they're a sight to behold and the engine/exhaust sounds are SUBLIME. Just wish I could afford an F8 Spyder!

 

[Leonard]

Haha, just my preference. Cut to the 3/4th rear view and it's mehhhh. The rear of the car was always its weakness. It's NOT a 550 Spyder so I still don't know why Porsche tried to take rear cues from it.

I mean to each their own; the last time I drove a 718, there wasn't any drama to it. No cracks, pops, brapapapapapapapapa sounds followed with a kick in the pants speed.

The 718 is a surgeon's scapel, and what I was shopping for instead, was a chainsaw.

That was the biggest reason I went with an M2 Comp. Dynamically it's not as precise as a 718, but an M2 Comp is so much fun to drive.

That is true. 981 is the sweet spot for road use definitely and sounds so much better.
You only need the extra precision of the 718 if using on track really.

 

[~el~jefe~]

981 S is cool in manual. If cheap. None are though. Wait 3 years and get one with 70k miles, then sorta cheap.

I would take a 718 S in manual though any day. It is so much more powerful and it has more notable grip and stability in every way.

 

[Climber]

Really? How is this ugly you heathen
I also thought it was one of the best sounding 6 cylinders going

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[Climber]

I think it beautiful like mine! Can’t wait to see it next to my Magma Red Emira

 

[ksegg]

Personal preference - I still don't find this view attractive. *shrugs*

 

[eriegz]

Personal preference - I still don't find this view attractive. *shrugs*

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I'm with you in that none of the Cayman variants really do much for me. However, the following photo came across my feed randomly yesterday, and I loved the colour (PTS Gulf Blue) in combination with the silver wheels:

 

[ksegg]

I always preferred the 991.2 Carrera T; to me, it's the best modern Porsche.

Pre-pandemic, I think it was actually attainable, and was rarer (and more desirable, imo) than any GTx variant.

 

[Pops68]

I did cross shop the GT4 with the Emira, but it only took a few phone calls to make my decision easy on the Lotus.
When I called the Porsche dealerships and expressed interest in a GT4 both salesman said to me that in order "to qualify" for a GT car allocation you had to have owned many Porsches in the past, and the woman was very, snobby snooty about this.
I told her I owned a Boxster for 10 years and she said that really doesn't help my case.
As soon as I heard the words "qualify for" I was immediately turned off, I just want to buy a new car, so the Lotus wins hands down for accessibility.
Another thing that turned me off the GT4 was its extremely tall gearing, hitting 84 kms in first gear and 137 kms in second gear.
I plan on getting the manual Emira in order to row my own gears.
With the GT4 gearing I would hardly get out of second gear, without severely breaking the law, and risking losing my drivers license.
I'm just hoping the gearing in the Emira is shorter for more fun.
Does anyone have an idea on the gearing in the Emira manual car??

Porsche Admits The Cayman GT4's Gearing Is Too Long | Carscoops

The Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 will soon be updated with an optional PDK

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My EXACT beef with Porsche!! I can't believe that someone willing to hand over $140k for a car can be treated with such aloofness. Screw them. And why get a stick if you never get out of 2nd-3rd on the twisties?? That's no fun. Might as well wait for one o those electric cars. Fast but not furious...