June Delivery / Change of Spec info

[NickR]

What suspension have you switched to (and why?) I’m currently on Touring but really thinking about changing to Sport

Switched from touring to sport. It's a weekend car and want to maximise the handling.

 

[TXEMIRA]

Switched from touring to sport. It's a weekend car and want to maximise the handling.

Man I’m up in the air on this still… I’d like to be able to take long drives, even though it’s just a weekend car.

With long drives ~200-400+ miles, highway roads, what are your thoughts?

 

[Mike-engel]

Man I’m up in the air on this still… I’d like to be able to take long drives, even though it’s just a weekend car.

With long drives ~200-400+ miles, highway roads, what are your thoughts?

I would go touring. I think you’ll have more flexibility and not really lose much on track days.

 

[DJW]

Man I’m up in the air on this still… I’d like to be able to take long drives, even though it’s just a weekend car.

With long drives ~200-400+ miles, highway roads, what are your thoughts?

if Touring is equivalent to Evora 400 , then my 400 was limo quality ride . I’m going Sport and plan to cover similar distances per day on driving hols. That said I’ve done similar miles in Exige V6 and Ktm XBOW so maybe I’m a bit weird

 

[NickR]

Man I’m up in the air on this still… I’d like to be able to take long drives, even though it’s just a weekend car.

With long drives ~200-400+ miles, highway roads, what are your thoughts?

I honestly think there isn't much between the 2 and that's why I went for sport.

if Touring is equivalent to Evora 400 , then my 400 was limo quality ride . I’m going Sport and plan to cover similar distances per day on driving hols. That said I’ve done similar miles in Exige V6 and Ktm XBOW so maybe I’m a bit weird

I think sport will be 'normal lotus' where as touring is for people new to this type os car.

 

[Tonyshepp]

I honestly think there isn't much between the 2 and that's why I went for sport.

I think sport will be 'normal lotus' where as touring is for people new to this type os car.

I think Gavan said that Touring was quieter as well, though i suspect that's down to the tires rather than suspension setup.
Are you going for Cup2's or Goodyears Nick?

 

[TomE]

Touring is equivalent to Series 1 Evora S setup and it's still sharp and engaging to drive. It's got enough compliance to be perfect for drives on poor quality roads, long trips or those horrible concrete highways. Sports is equivalent to GT410 (GT in the US) so is a bit stiffer but not Exige stiff. Personally I find it a bit too taut, even on a decent tarmac surface if it has undulations, and you will be very aware of road surface quality through the steering.

A couple of videos of my Evora S on a fast road drive and on track are on this thread:

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[freefall_junkie]

I think Gavan said that Touring was quieter as well, though i suspect that's down to the tires rather than suspension setup.
Are you going for Cup2's or Goodyears Nick?

Pretty sure that will be mostly down to tyres, although if I remember correctly the sports suspension has firmer bushes which could make a difference to NVH. I am going for sports but changed my spec last week to go for Goodyears rather than Cup 2s. I like the idea of the car on sticky tyres, but given the limited number of track days I'll do they are overkill really, plus Cup 2s will be noisier, possibly have a slightly harsher ride, wear faster and be more expensive to replace.

 

[Tonyshepp]

Pretty sure that will be mostly down to tyres, although if I remember correctly the sports suspension has firmer bushes which could make a difference to NVH. I am going for sports but changed my spec last week to go for Goodyears rather than Cup 2s. I like the idea of the car on sticky tyres, but given the limited number of track days I'll do they are overkill really, plus Cup 2s will be noisier, possibly have a slightly harsher ride, wear faster and be more expensive to replace.

I read on some YouTube Tire comparison video that they start to lose grip after 3k miles- expensive business.

 

[Leonard]

I read on some YouTube Tire comparison video that they start to lose grip after 3k miles- expensive business.

They come with less tread as standard and as grip levels are so high when new you notice the decrease in performance more as they age for sure. On the track when hot hot doesn't really matter, slicks for the win!

 

[TXEMIRA]

I would go touring. I think you’ll have more flexibility and not really lose much on track days.

If I did go sport would it be a killer stuff feel on those rare highway cross sections like bridges or would I get that same “slam” with touring too?

 

[TomE]

Cup2s are brilliant on a dry track. But when cold or wet

 

[TXEMIRA]

if Touring is equivalent to Evora 400 , then my 400 was limo quality ride . I’m going Sport and plan to cover similar distances per day on driving hols. That said I’ve done similar miles in Exige V6 and Ktm XBOW so maybe I’m a bit weird

I’m rocking the Evora 400 now and I love it but wouldn’t want anything “stiffer” I don’t think. I can feel some of the slightest pavement variances.

That may just be me though. My daily is a Jeep with 37s running at 28psi. I am used to paying attention to that.

 

[TomE]

If I did go sport would it be a killer stuff feel on those rare highway cross sections like bridges or would I get that same “slam” with touring too?

Touring won't completely isolate you from a poor road surface or sharp changes like a pothole or the expansion strip between a road and bridge deck, but it is less harsh than Sports.

The country roads around me are not well maintained, so as well as broken edges and pot holes the surfaces can be uneven and worn or patched. Plus the ironwork is often sunken or when they repair they patch around them rather than re-levelling, so you get rough edges or sunken gratings. Some of the highways I use for longer distances are the old style concrete surface, which is both rough and noisy. So Sports will just be jarring and tiring for me to drive on the roads I typically use.

On track the Touring will be fine (several of the Lotus staff prefer to race with a Touring setup). If I became more serious about track times I could add some stickier tyres and make the geometry more aggressive before I'd consider changing the springs and dampers.

 

[SJR202]

Touring won't completely isolate you from a poor road surface or sharp changes like a pothole or the expansion strip between a road and bridge deck, but it is less harsh than Sports.

The country roads around me are not well maintained, so as well as broken edges and pot holes the surfaces can be uneven and worn or patched. Plus the ironwork is often sunken or when they repair they patch around them rather than re-levelling, so you get rough edges or sunken gratings. Some of the highways I use for longer distances are the old style concrete surface, which is both rough and noisy. So Sports will just be jarring and tiring for me to drive on the roads I typically use.

On track the Touring will be fine (several of the Lotus staff prefer to race with a Touring setup). If I became more serious about track times I could add some stickier tyres and make the geometry more aggressive before I'd consider changing the springs and dampers.

Im with you on that, spending a lot of time around Guildford/Farnham and the roads are tiring, even our old Disco 2 with plenty of tyre sidewall gets banged around on some of the pot holes, everything else with low profile tyres gives you that feeling of dread when the bang hits.
Reading your posts, I drove the Evora S back when it launched at Hethel and B&C, it was like a magic carpet, glided over the curbs on track, comfortable on road but had the feel and handling like something much stiffer. Am going to try the Evora 410 prior to placing the final build but 90% sure (with no track days planned) it'll still be the Touring spec for fast road use. (Now if I lived in Germany things might be different!)

 

[Leonard]

I f anyone has any none Lotus comparisons for Sports Suspension I'm all ears
Preferably Yaris GR, Porsche, BMW MCar or Golf R as that's the last 8 years for me and I can't remember anything past that cos I'm getting old

 

[TomE]

Evora GT (equivalent to Sports) versus BMW M2CS - there are sections on Performance and Ride & Handling but frankly just watch all of it because it's a nice comparison of two great cars on some brilliant roads:

 

[NickR]

Evora GT (equivalent to Sports) versus BMW M2CS - there are sections on Performance and Ride & Handling but frankly just watch all of it because it's a nice comparison of two great cars on some brilliant roads:

And a sensible outcome

 

[NickR]

I think Gavan said that Touring was quieter as well, though i suspect that's down to the tires rather than suspension setup.
Are you going for Cup2's or Goodyears Nick?

Goodyear

 

[Leonard]

Evora GT (equivalent to Sports) versus BMW M2CS - there are sections on Performance and Ride & Handling but frankly just watch all of it because it's a nice comparison of two great cars on some brilliant roads:

I watched that. Was very good as my previous car was an M2 Competition. Unfortunately the roads were like glass so didn't really learn too much