Suspension: Touring and Sports options

[DrD]

I don't feel a sense of joy thinking the FE Emira will end up being a test-mule for later Emiras

It was always going to be the early adopters peril. There's no doubt later emiras will be better. But if like me, you want one now, you want one now!

 

[CarGuy07]

I don't feel a sense of joy thinking the FE Emira will end up being a test-mule for later Emiras

This is always a thing for early adopters. Bugs might not been worked out yet. I was actually quite happy to not make the FE boat. It’s always a bit risky for first MY (although my previous first MY M235i was solid). I think base models will have some kinks worked out by then. Following cars will be even better but who wants to wait another few years?!

 

[Evotion]

If the Emira was to be my ONLY car then I concede, I would have never gone for it.
I am happy to take the risk, always have been. I am not actually worried even 1%.
It will be an amazing car for me.

 

[kitkat]

That it's adjustable doesn't automatically mean it is intended to be adjusted...

I'll enquire with Lotus here but I'm fairly certain their position will be that any modifications not from factory will void your warranty. I'd caution others to do same.

Will lotus also void your warranty for a slipping eccentric alignment bolt too?

Absurd claim.

 

[xen]

Will lotus also void your warranty for a slipping eccentric alignment bolt too?

Absurd claim.

Not sure if you're being serious or naive - coming from as litigious a place as you do. And yes, any modifications - hardware or software related from factory will void your warranty unless performed by the Dealer (it's a monopoly in most of the Middle East)

 

[CarGuy07]

Not sure if you're being serious or naive - coming from as litigious a place as you do. And yes, any modifications - hardware or software related from factory will void your warranty unless performed by the Dealer (it's a monopoly in most of the Middle East)

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act requires dealers/manufacturers to prove that your modification actually caused the issue that went wrong and therefore voided your warranty. You don’t lose warranty automatically just because you modified something on your car.

So if you modify the suspension, for example, you would lose any warranty related to that and issues that it might cause. But would don’t lose the engine warranty because modifying a suspension has nothing to do with the engine.

 

[DrD]

To be clear, adjustments within spec will never void warranty. The spec for adjustment is broad from the factory in which you can significantly change the characteristics of the car, without going over factory tolerances. Alignment will never void a warranty as technically a pothole can change your alignment out of spec - will Lotus, Porsche or anyone else stop you from replacing a faulty door mirror...? Or a corroded alloy wheel? No, definitely not.

It's what I mentioned in my post above, when I had the specialist transform my 911 GTS, it was all within Porsche's factory specifications, but on a different end of the spectrum to how Porsche originally set it up. No warranty issues....

 

[xen]

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act requires dealers/manufacturers to prove that your modification actually caused the issue that went wrong and therefore voided your warranty. You don’t lose warranty automatically just because you modified something on your car.

In the US….we don’t all live there you know…

 

[TomE]

That is why I went with them.
Anyway, I will get some CUP2s now as well - probably put then on for my trip to the 'ring.

I hope it’s not raining on the way there or while you’re on track. Seriously. They are potentially lethal in the wet.

 

[CarGuy07]

In the US….we don’t all live there you know…

Right. I didn’t read all the posts but it sounded like a general statement that any mods would void warranty, and that just isn’t true (at least not in the US and I doubt is true in many places).

 

[TomE]

You're all 100% correct, given the context it boggles my mind why lotus didn't give Cup2s on the car...

Because EVO asked Lotus for a car for a road trip through France (see the print magazine). As it was a road trip and expected to be rainy, Lotus fitted Goodyears.

Then EVO took it straight to Anglesey after the trip “because they felt like it” and “oh, they happened to have a GT4 there”. Hmm.

 

[Evotion]

I hope it’s not raining on the way there or while you’re on track. Seriously. They are potentially lethal in the wet.

Agh.... fair point. I cannot guarantee the weather. I won;t be gunning it on the 'ring for sure so might get away with it. I can put Cups on the car in the morning of any decent weather or track days.

 

[MCS]

I hope it’s not raining on the way there or while you’re on track. Seriously. They are potentially lethal in the wet.

Can confirm this. I only took my GT3 on cup 2s in the rain twice and both times not by choice. Never felt so uneasy in a car before. I was the slowest car on the motorway that day

 

[Evotion]

Then EVO took it straight to Anglesey after the trip “because they felt like it” and “oh, they happened to have a GT4 there”.

Maybe a cheque for 100K Euros has gone into the Evo bank account from Stuttgart.

Certainly make me laugh with derision. Like a spoilt child I will never buy an Evo mag again.

 

[TomE]

Can confirm this. I only took my GT3 on cup 2s in the rain twice and both times not by choice. Never felt so uneasy in a car before. I was the slowest car on the motorway that day

Thanks for adding this. I think some people assume “how bad can they really be?” when we say it’s a track-focused tyre. Crash your car and hurt yourself bad is how bad it can be.

 

[MCS]

Because EVO asked Lotus for a car for a road trip through France (see the print magazine). As it was a road trip and expected to be rainy, Lotus fitted Goodyears.

Then EVO took it straight to Anglesey after the trip “because they felt like it” and “oh, they happened to have a GT4 there”. Hmm.

Yeah that’s about right. Pink GT4s are ten a penny round where I live. One just drove past as I type this

 

[xen]

Right. I didn’t read all the posts but it sounded like a general statement that any mods would void warranty, and that just isn’t true (at least not in the US and I doubt is true in many places).

I did mention I’d check with my dealer and made direct reference to the Middle East.

Different jurisdictions have different laws. In the US you have your odd dealership model and in the UAE all dealerships are effective monopolies and have fairly draconian policies.

To give you a few examples, a mate has an M8 and tried to get the apple play & android auto software update (published publicly by BMW) but was refused by BMW here. He was told if he did it anywhere else he’d void his warranty. His only option was to buy a newer model year car (from them)

On Porsches most of the connected features are disabled from factory and you’re similarly not allowed to change anything.

Finally most dealerships won’t touch any cars not purchased from them - those that do demand a registration fee which ranges about $10,000.

 

[MCS]

Thanks for adding this. I think some people assume “how bad can they really be?” when we say it’s a track-focused tyre. Crash your car and hurt yourself bad is how bad it can be.

Yep. Cold or wet Cup2s will let go at the slightest sniff of throttle

Brilliant tyre but one to be treated with respect

 

[DrD]

Because EVO asked Lotus for a car for a road trip through France (see the print magazine). As it was a road trip and expected to be rainy, Lotus fitted Goodyears.

Then EVO took it straight to Anglesey after the trip “because they felt like it” and “oh, they happened to have a GT4 there”. Hmm.

That explains that then!

The irony here, with people taking strong allegiances to different reviewers, EVO, Jethro, Harry etc....
Harry Metcalfe started EVO, it's his baby, he's long sold it now though. Even more Ironic... Jethro was one of his proteges and original EVO team members at the time. Now both the magazine and people are in entirely different directions and ethos!

 

[kitkat]

Not sure if you're being serious or naive - coming from as litigious a place as you do. And yes, any modifications - hardware or software related from factory will void your warranty unless performed by the Dealer (it's a monopoly in most of the Middle East)

I’ve been tracking and aligning my own cars in America for 20 years. Dealers have never said anything — including BMW. Alignments aren’t modifying hardware, they’re literally OEM range of adjustment in the car’s geometry.

Even when you do replace control arms or parts to properly align your car or extend the range of alignment, you’re still not voiding your entire warranty in the USA — just the warranty applicable to that system of the car.