Tariffs on Emira in US?

[admu]

I'm one of the frustrated people waiting for an Emira.
Darn if you pay the tariff and the tariff went away the following month.
Darn if you wait for the tariff to go away and it never did.

 

[crainp]

I'm one of the frustrated people waiting for an Emira.
Darn if you pay the tariff and the tariff went away the following month.
Darn if you wait for the tariff to go away and it never did.

Grab one from a dealer NOW!

 

[jbug187]

I have a deposit down on an Emira and just asked my dealer about the rumors that they are stopping US shipments. This was his response:

Hi, it’s a little too early to tell. I can’t imagine if the car is already assembled that they’re going to stop that process or in the process of building the car I really don’t know. We’re waiting to hear back on more information for next week.

 

[harleyujoe]

I'm one of the frustrated people waiting for an Emira.
Darn if you pay the tariff and the tariff went away the following month.
Darn if you wait for the tariff to go away and it never did.

give it a few months and see if the idiot comes to his senses with market crashing and everything around him..
that is what I would do... I know I would be cussing him out if it were me right now..
The tariff does not make the car worth purchasing ..I know I would not purchase with tariff..

 

[ShootingSight]

Yeah, the imbalance swings by country, but it is about 7x as many European cars coming to the US as there are US cars going to Europe. I think Germany (Volkswagen, Audi, Mercedes, BMW/Mini, Porsche) and England (McLaren, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Lotus, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Land Rover) are about 4:1, but places like Sweden are like 20:1 (Volvo, SAAB). I think this is what is really bothering Trump. The high import duties make it very difficult for US car manufacturers to compete.

 

[harleyujoe]

Yeah, the imbalance swings by country, but it is about 7x as many European cars coming to the US as there are US cars going to Europe. I think Germany (Volkswagen, Audi, Mercedes, BMW/Mini, Porsche) and England (McLaren, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Lotus, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Land Rover) are about 4:1, but places like Sweden are like 20:1 (Volvo, SAAB). I think this is what is really bothering Trump. The high import duties make it very difficult for US car manufacturers to compete.

If the U.S. would build cars that draw attention and stop jamming 4 F""""" Doors down our throats...
I would buy American..but I ill never buy a 4 door car ever..
If they would build a 2 door electric sports car I would buy it...
I would have bought a Corvette if it looked more rounded..I hate the Chisel look of them..
If they would have had a Nomad 2 door in would be in my garage..But No..

 

[Dino67]

The Nomad Concept was awesome. One of the few times I wrote to a manufacturer begging them to put it into production.

 

[chirowolf]

Yeah, the imbalance swings by country, but it is about 7x as many European cars coming to the US as there are US cars going to Europe. I think Germany (Volkswagen, Audi, Mercedes, BMW/Mini, Porsche) and England (McLaren, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Lotus, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Land Rover) are about 4:1, but places like Sweden are like 20:1 (Volvo, SAAB). I think this is what is really bothering Trump. The high import duties make it very difficult for US car manufacturers to compete.

Agreed. this is a classic business ploy. Too many years of less than equitable trade. Call it a bit of "taste of your own medicine" Many countries have quickly come to a compromise. I would highly doubt any of these threats, sanctions, and tariffs will be permanent.
Look at NATO. US threatens to leave, and suddenly other countries come up with money for their defense.
I would never call the President a statesman, but he is effective at leveling the playing field.

 

[UCLAFC]

give it a few months and see if the idiot comes to his senses with market crashing and everything around him..
that is what I would do... I know I would be cussing him out if it were me right now..
The tariff does not make the car worth purchasing ..I know I would not purchase with tariff..

I wonder if this may backfire more than thought. China may swoop in and strike a tempting deal with allies and claim/make up for any possible lost US market share.

 

[crainp]

I wonder if this may backfire more than thought. China may swoop in and strike a tempting deal with allies and claim/make up for any possible lost US market share.

My take is that China will definitely quickly jump into every crack that has been created, and there are a lot of cracks worldwide.

 

[ShootingSight]

Midwest Auto Group is advertising they have 8 cars that are in stock, duty free. I doubt that is the case, but maybe there are 8 unsold allocations that carry the MSRP that has not been raised yet.

 

[weihnachts]

My take is that China will definitely quickly jump into every crack that has been created, and there are a lot of cracks worldwide.

100%
the US is voluntarily giving up worldwide goodwill and influence for others to step in and fill the gaps across the board. it is hastening the onset of the chinese century.

 

[crainp]

Yes we have a debt and budget problem, but when you manage an operation, you do not run through it indiscrimately with a sledgehammer breaking things prior to proper understanding and analysis of that operation, and you don't delegate the task to the incompetent and/or inexperienced. You develop an intelligent plan of action and then implement it in a rational deliberate and consistent manner. Of course, mismanagement frequently originates from the top, as it does in this case. Remember, it can be done. Clinton and the Republican congress did balance the budget. And they didn't wreak the world in the process.

 

[Johnson]

…
I would never call the President a statesman, but he is effective at leveling the playing field.

“Level the playing field”? More like ploughing the whole field into the ground. Raising the cost of alternative goods for your population is poor business, and ineffectual business support.

In the 1970s, Australia had high tariffs on TVs to support our single domestic manufacturer. For years that company made TVs that were expensive and not very good, compared to Japanese TVs. When the tariff was finally removed, the Australian company went broke, but the population could buy better TVs at half the price.

So what makes more sense?

 

[3A3968M]

Yes we have a debt and budget problem, but when you manage an operation, you do not run through it indiscrimately with a sledgehammer breaking things prior to proper understanding and analysis of that operation, and you don't delegate the task to the incompetent and/or inexperienced. You develop an intelligent plan of action and then implement it in a rational deliberate and consistent manner. Of course, mismanagement frequently originates from the top, as it does in this case. Remember, it can be done. Clinton and the Republican congress did balance the budget. And they didn't wreak the world in the process.

Well to be honest, they are not using a sledgehammer, more like a chainsaw.

 

[Eagle7]

Yes we have a debt and budget problem, but when you manage an operation, you do not run through it indiscrimately with a sledgehammer breaking things prior to proper understanding and analysis of that operation, and you don't delegate the task to the incompetent and/or inexperienced. You develop an intelligent plan of action and then implement it in a rational deliberate and consistent manner. Of course, mismanagement frequently originates from the top, as it does in this case. Remember, it can be done. Clinton and the Republican congress did balance the budget. And they didn't wreak the world in the process.

The national debt in 1994 was 4 trillion, not 37 trillion. Just to inform all the economic experts in this thread who pretend they know better, if you spent 1 million dollars a day every single day, non-stop, it would take 2,739 YEARS to spend just ONE trillion. Imagine what you could do in your neighborhood, community, town if you had 1 million dollars every single day to spend. Everyone's street would be like new, no potholes anywhere. Everyone's houses fixed up. Everyone's cars fixed and in top shape. And after you've done all that, tomorrow you have another million to spend.

When you consider how much money the political establishment in D.C. has gone through, and we have NONE of those things fixed up, it's clear something drastic needed to be done, and that's why things are happening the way they are. Not only can we not continue increasing the debt the way they were, but we need to reduce it. The interest we're paying alone is staggering. The emergency measures that are being taken are necessary to avoid a complete collapse of the dollar, and get us back on solid ground financially. There's going to be some pain along the way, but it has to be done.

There are a lot of opinions in this thread and not a whole lot of understanding; though some do. Tariffs are a negotiating ploy. We have already received pledges of 3 Trillion dollars worth of manufacturing and investment dollars in the country in just the last 45 days as a result. There are no tariffs if companies build here. In less than 6 months things are going to be a whole lot different economically, and in a good way; people just need to be patient and not smash the Chicken Little panic button because they've bought into the media click-bait-drama narratives.

 

[Jinba ittai]

The national debt in 1994 was 4 trillion, not 37 trillion. Just to inform all the economic experts in this thread who pretend they know better, if you spent 1 million dollars a day every single day, non-stop, it would take 2,739 YEARS to spend just ONE trillion. Imagine what you could do in your neighborhood, community, town if you had 1 million dollars every single day to spend. Everyone street would be like new, no potholes anywhere. Everyone's houses fixed up. Everyone's cars fixed and in top shape. And after you've done all that, tomorrow you have another million to spend.

When you consider how much money the political establishment in D.C. has gone through, and we have NONE of those things fixed up, it's clear something drastic needed to be done, and that's why things are happening the way they are. Not only can we not continue increasing the debt the way they were, but we need to reduce it. The interest we're paying alone is staggering. The emergency measures that are being taken are necessary to avoid a complete collapse of the dollar, and get us back on solid ground financially. There's going to be some pain along the way, but it has to be done.

There are a lot of opinions in this thread and not a whole lot of understanding; though some do. Tariffs are a negotiating ploy. We have already received pledges of 3 Trillion dollars worth of manufacturing and investment dollars in the country in just the last 45 days as a result. There are no tariffs if companies build here. In less than 6 months things are going to be a whole lot different economically, and in a good way; people just need to be patient and not smash the Chicken Little panic button because they've bought into the media click-bait-drama narratives.

Balancing the budget makes a ton of sense. I can’t get behind the rest.

 

[Eagle7]

Balancing the budget makes a ton of sense. I can’t get behind the rest.

That's precisely the problem; balancing the budget isn't enough. We cannot sustain a 37 trillion dollar debt. We need to dramatically cut back on the spending levels well below the level of national income, so we can reduce that debt. We're paying just over 1 trillion a year JUST IN INTEREST. While DOGE is coming up with ways to reduce the spending levels, Trump is coming up with ways to increase our income levels so we can start taking that debt level down.

 

[3A3968M]

The national debt in 1994 was 4 trillion, not 37 trillion. Just to inform all the economic experts in this thread who pretend they know better, if you spent 1 million dollars a day every single day, non-stop, it would take 2,739 YEARS to spend just ONE trillion. Imagine what you could do in your neighborhood, community, town if you had 1 million dollars every single day to spend. Everyone street would be like new, no potholes anywhere. Everyone's houses fixed up. Everyone's cars fixed and in top shape. And after you've done all that, tomorrow you have another million to spend.

When you consider how much money the political establishment in D.C. has gone through, and we have NONE of those things fixed up, it's clear something drastic needed to be done, and that's why things are happening the way they are. Not only can we not continue increasing the debt the way they were, but we need to reduce it. The interest we're paying alone is staggering. The emergency measures that are being taken are necessary to avoid a complete collapse of the dollar, and get us back on solid ground financially. There's going to be some pain along the way, but it has to be done.

There are a lot of opinions in this thread and not a whole lot of understanding; though some do. Tariffs are a negotiating ploy. We have already received pledges of 3 Trillion dollars worth of manufacturing and investment dollars in the country in just the last 45 days as a result. There are no tariffs if companies build here. In less than 6 months things are going to be a whole lot different economically, and in a good way; people just need to be patient and not smash the Chicken Little panic button because they've bought into the media click-bait-drama narratives.

You are delusional to think that in just 6 months we will bring the manufacturing back home… But you do you if the first 4 years of of the current administration didn’t prove to you that getting rid off the debt is not in the best interest of the President Musk and his apprentice Trump.

 

[meenboli]

I think the most likely outcome will be that Europe drops the tariffs on cars going from the US to Europe, as there are a lot more cars coming this way, than getting exported. If this happens, foreign demand for US made cars will suddenly go up, creating jobs in the US and equalizing some of the trade imbalance. What I don't get is why VAT is being included in this discussion, as that applies equally to domestic and to foreign goods, so English cars sold in England also pay this. I think of it as analogous to our sales tax.

Not so sure - generally speaking, Europeans like European and Japanese cars - (and China are making inroads) - the perception of US cars is that they are not good enough. I'm not saying they're not, I'm saying that's the belief.