Can we have a different thread about the 'scamdemic'? - I can go on about that one for hours! 😂
And, these things will sort themselves out I think, when the various industries of each country apply pressure - and the various governments realise it isn't working properly.
Things are generally...
@Eagle7 - You’re probably right to be fair 🙏🏻
However - the subject is a problem - and it’s directly connected to the purchase of an Emira.
It’s a tricky one - we all have an opinion (albeit not the same one).
30% of Teslas are made from overseas parts - therefore Trump's Tariffs will simply cause an inflation increase in the US, making US cars harder to sell overseas.
Economics doesn't appear to be his, or his administration's strong point.
Not so sure - generally speaking, Europeans like European and Japanese cars - (and China are making inroads) - the perception of US cars is that they are not good enough. I'm not saying they're not, I'm saying that's the belief.
Elon won't see the 25% tax - the US government will.
And I expect that it would, due to sentiment, lead to less sales in the UK.
And possibly more sales in the US - everybody is going to be driving the same car! 😂
Yes I know - the VAT is irrelevant, almost everything has 20% VAT (including the Emira - £15,207 in my case).
But it should be evened out - Tesla would have a lot to lose from that.
The fact that the USA imported half of its car sales last year tells you that people don’t want to be forced to buy American cars, just like British people don’t want to be forced to buy British built cars etc.
I’m pretty sure (on the whole) that what’s going on is not what the Americans voted...
I think Trump/Vance/Musk are a shocking combination.
What has happened to the world?
How do manufacturers legislate for this? - all electric, not all electric, hybrid, hydrogen.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they all went bust!
There are still cars on the Lotus website (albeit at dealers dotted about the country) - and they are still showing at list, or very close - good way to get them snapped up maybe...
Yes agreed - I'm assuming it might stem the 2nd hand price drop a little...
And the question isn't as simple as what can people afford - it's whether they think it's worth it, compared to what else is available for the money...
What do people think of the new pricing?
Will it kill future sales? (the base price is higher than I expected)
Just gone through the configurator and mine comes in at £108k on the road.
I'm unsure I would have paid that despite how much I love the Emira.
I knew you were going to mention the S&P500 - I've been touting it's values to all I meet - It may be heading for a fall in 2025 - maybe not - but it's a dead sure long term investment.
Hmm - wasn't expecting that reaction 😂
I didn't say I wasn't interested in the discussion - I wouldn't be here if that was the case.
Nor did I say the conversation is meaningless - perhaps I should have started with the term 'It doesn't bother me'.
And by that I don't mean I'm loaded, so I...
I have no interest in the depreciation - I first looked at the photos back in September 2021 (I know this because I saved them to my Dropbox account) - and as of October 2024 it appeared in my garage (It's not been out much due to the weather!)
The person who owns my Emira after me will be...
I've not had it done - and now I'm worried. Having said that I've had it only 4 weeks, and it's rained every weekend since so it's not moved out of the garage apart from the 1st day, so it's quite safe at the moment!
I'd like to think the UK government have recently learnt a lesson that you can't just dip your hands in up to the elbow and help yourself - but I'll probably be proved wrong!
Yeah - I agree - I don't think the Emira will ever bee a hybrid (good!).
It's a good way to separate the 135 from it though
I think what this really tells us - especially when you look at the losses car makers are struggling with, and the general apathy towards EV in the first place, is that the (UK) government(s) have got it wrong yet again.
Making up policies with zero understanding of what they are talking about...
Pretty sure the Lexus RX450H uses the same Camry engine (it's a 3.5L V6 - I know that much as my dad has one!).
It's a hybrid - just needs the supercharger strapping on top from what I can see.
And it's quietness removing (adding sand to the oil should do it).
I have an Audi S5 that I cooked my discs - and they warped.
You 'can' have them skimmed at a machine shop - but I wouldn't bother.
It's new discs I'm afraid - once they're gone, they go worse when hot, and better when cold.
Looks like you've got them excessively hot at some point.
I drove...
It's the first thing I noticed when I picked up my car a couple of weeks back - mainly that it's not stuck on straight - or curved, in that it doesn't match the contour of the car.
I'll check when I get home from work that it's actually stuck on properly.
Hmm - thanks 😂 - I'm very OCD too, and you're not helping...
The paint concerns me - I had a factory tour back in February - and the guy explaining the painting process was describing how thin they'd managed to get the paint - it was around 30 microns from memory, which is about half what you'd...
I've just taken delivery of a Seneca Blue Emira (7 days old now) and decided not to PPF (has been ceramic'd).
Its stablemate is a nearly 14 year old Audi S5 Cab (Sprint Blue) - that I've had since new. Now done just over 40k miles.
It was never PPF'd or ceramic coated and has only a couple of...
Lotus - well, at least part of it.
Geely UK is worth -£87m.
Not happy reading if you're the finance director I wouldn't think.
Having said that - possibly only to be expected when you're laying down a huge infrastructure...
Pretty sure you get 12 months from initial activation - which happens when the first signal contact is made (that's what it says in the emails I received from Scorpion).
They sorted it yesterday - all I have to do is start up the car - which I did last night.
Nothing has happened as yet, but I was sat in my garage so it's not had change to get a GPS fix yet.
I'll try this weekend, rain permitting...
My credit checking software popped up with this this morning.
He 'was' the Chief Executive of Geely Holdings.
Don't shoot the messenger, I have no further knowledge (and haven't looked) - but read into it what you will...
Hi Marty
Can I have an Owners manual and Workshop Manual also please? (Car arrived last Friday).
You do realise you'll be doing this for the rest of your life! 😂
Cheers
Tony
Cheers - yes I'd stumbled across that post looking for the manual 👍
The sales guy at Manchester (Adrian, he's a good guy) said the manual is in the car HMI - but I've not found it if it is...