Emira Review Index [V6 FE]

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For those looking for the latest Emira V6 FE reviews scheduled to be released today, I've self-volunteered to maintain a quick reference index here.
Please let me know of any missing articles and I'll update accordingly. (y)

ReviewerTypeDirect Link
EdmundsArticle
Harry's Garage (Harry Metcalfe)Video Review

Harry drives the Sports and Tour suspension back to back on the same road and shares his thoughts.
Schmee150 (Tim Burton)Video ReviewPublished 21st June
Carwow (Mat Watson)Video Review
TopGearArticles and VideoPublished 3rd July
Chris Harris talks about the Lotus Emira

Published 20th June

AutoTrader (Rory Reid)Video Review
EvoArticle and Video Review
CARArticle and Video ReviewPublished 22nd July


Lotus Emira vs Cayman 718 GTS vs Alpine 110s
AutocarArticle and Video Review
PistonheadsArticle
KHTVVideo Review
The DriveArticle
AutoExpressArticle
Pictures:
WhichCarArticle
CarBuyerArticle
HagertyArticle
Road and TrackArticlePublished 1st September
Lotus Emira Road and Track Drive

GoodwoodArticle
The IntercoolerPodcastReasonably good post-embargo Emira discussion on The Intercooler.
MotortrendArticle
DriveArticle
AFRArticle
ParkersArticle
CarExpertArticle
Caffeine & MachineArticle
Photos on Instagram:
The Sunday Times DrivingArticle
Car and DriverArticle
The SunArticle
AutoCar UKArticlePublished 2nd July

 
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For example, it seems obvious but Lotus should not have allowed back to back car comparisons between other production cars and a non-production Emira. Why set yourself up for failure? Do you think any other car manufacturer would be stupid enough to allow that? 🤷‍♂️

Back to back competitive comparisons can follow later after production cars are built and released to market.

I'm still super excited to get my Emira soon and think the car will be brilliant, but Lotus deserves any backfire created as a result of poor planning and media engagement.
 
Other manufacturers (like Porsche) have very strict rules around what journalists can/cannot do during reviews, especially for non-production cars. They also have a bunch of engineers onsite to resolve issues and deal with any questions. It seems Lotus was quite liberal in allowing reviewers to do what they wanted with pre-production cars which might have come back to bite.

If Lotus were better organised, they would have had two car setups (track and sport) available to each reviewer, ability to do tyre swaps (e.g. sports + goodyear or sport + cup2) with engineers directly on hand. Reviewers like EVO / Jethro could then complain directly to the engineers and either get explanations, a different car or tyre setup and maybe some more design detail over a lunch and learn event.

Exactly. Instead Harry had to call Gav to talk about suspension and Gav sent one of his development drivers over with a Touring spec car for him to drive. The C&M folks decided to take their press car over to the Alps for the weekend. EVO took a road-spec car to a track. CarWow did a 0-60 test despite being told not to - on the test track at Hethel!! Lotus seem to have had no control over who did what. It's amateur.

For the Evora press launch they took a bunch of cars to a hotel in Scotland, invited all the press there at the same time, gave them briefings on the car and recommended routes for test drives and photos. It's not hard to manage the press reviews.
 
Yeah it's all a little odd. Toyota allowed the press to "review" the GR Corollas that were preproduction models but specifically did not allow any test drives. That is what lotus should have done as well and only allowed drives/comparisons/testing with actual production models. But it seems they are too crunched for time and want to get the car out there without further delays.
 
Here is the "T131" First Edition product brief showing the modes that go +200rpm over "normal" rev limit. Someone who shall remain anonymous snapped this at a UK event and sent it to me. The leak is neither their fault nor mine--a Lotus engineer left their laptop with this doc open in plain sight to the public.

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Here is the "T131" First Edition leaked doc showing the modes that go +200rpm over "normal" rev limit. Someone who shall remain anonymous snapped this at a UK event and sent it to me.

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Yup, I remember seeing this... but why isn't Lotus allowing it in the ECU? Why do all of the literature, press releases and reviews have none of this information? It would only help Lotus sell cars. Should we continue to stay hopeful? At least, maybe those of us in the US?
 
Yup, I remember seeing this... but why isn't Lotus allowing it in the ECU? Why do all of the literature, press releases and reviews have none of this information? It would only help Lotus sell cars. Should we continue to stay hopeful? At least, maybe those of us in the US?

Not sure, that was quite a while ago too. Maybe they changed their minds?
 
Read the title; it's for the Production First Edition Version 6 software. One of the reviewers, I can't remember which, said they have the version 5. something (5.6?) software in the review car, so it isn't the final version. They even commented that it's supposed to have version 6 but doesn't.

This is why I think they should have waited for these press reviews until they had a final spec car, with final spec software and performance. I know everybody has been hammering them for info, but this has just created more angst and uncertainty instead of scratching the itch for more info in a positive way.

They should NOT have allowed these pre-production cars to be road tested/compared to finished competitor cars.

At this point....LOTUS.... just get the car right for production. We'll be okay with it. Owner reviews and experiences will do more for the car and brand than any press review. Get it right.
 
Overall the car has been praised in many ways, I don’t know what all the fuss is about it’s only the Evo review that seems to have put peoples noses out of joint. As mentioned this guy didn’t even have the right set up to comment on.

Let’s admit most people on this forum are petrol heads and enthusiasts who are looking for the finer details, but in reality over half the people who end up buying this car won’t be interested in its 0-60 time or how it handles they will just be looking for a beautiful looking daily driver.

I’ve just sold my 718 Cayman and I currently have a Porsche 911 992 S, in fact I’ve been with Porsche for years,, but now it’s time for a change and I know this Emira won’t let me down, I just want that fun factor back as I have had my fun with all the Porsches I’ve purchased.

I don’t think I’ve ever had a car longer than 2 years in my life and it will be no different with the Emira, maybe buy then it will be on to the all new electric version of the Elise. (Or whatever they call it)

Please everyone be optimistic I think overall the majority of us will be more than happy.
 
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Here is the "T131" First Edition product brief showing the modes that go +200rpm over "normal" rev limit. Someone who shall remain anonymous snapped this at a UK event and sent it to me. The leak is neither their fault nor mine--a Lotus engineer left their laptop with this doc open in plain sight to the public.

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Everyone assumed that the default rev limit is 6800rpm in Tour and +200rpm therefore meant 7000rpm (max).

Perhaps the default rev limit is now 6600rpm and in Sport or Track it is 6800rpm. :ROFLMAO:

#forthedebaters
 
I agree Tom that 400HP is plenty. I suppose my only gripe is I don't think I have ever seen any automotive company release a new vehicle to replace an older model and re-use the exact engine and then de-tune it. Literally backwards a bit. Aside from that, I think the Emira is fantastic.
400 is adequate in a road car, but was the benchmark for Cayman and M2 Comp three/four years ago. I do agree launching with 416 would have moved the game on and given the Emira a much needed advantage. New M2 will have 455bhp...
 
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I have just read Car's written review https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/lotus/emira-coupe/

I'd encourage anyone having a wobble after yesterday's reviews (admittedly I had doubts after reading Evo) to read it. Even more positive than their video review, and that is with Sport + Goodyears . Rekindled my enthusiasm for the Emira.
 
Just catching up with reviews and comments on here. A few thoughts:

Let's drop the pre-production car excuses. The only things that'll change are final tolerances on fit and finish. Any ECU / software / configuration changes will need to go through an extended testing and validation phase that's simply unreasonable now this close to production (unless that's delayed).

The reviews I think have brought everyone back down to reality so now we can start to have realistic grounded conversations about the car. My read is that It's not particularly groundbreaking (which I never expected it to be) but offers a solid alternative to the 718 GTS - which was the design brief from the start. For a relatively 'small' company like Lotus this is quite the achievement. Do consider though that the current 718 rides a significantly older platform and is about to be replaced.

I'm keeping my deposit and order in place. It looks much better than the cayman and performs about the same - which was my expectation at the start.

P.S. it's disengenious to reject the reviews you don't like or that don't agree with your prior expectations (confirmation bias once again) and then suggest the reviewers have an ulterior motive. Take them as they are - different peoples opinions and try to compare their context to yours.
 
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Read the title; it's for the Production First Edition Version 6 software. One of the reviewers, I can't remember which, said they have the version 5. something (5.6?) software in the review car, so it isn't the final version. They even commented that it's supposed to have version 6 but doesn't.

This is why I think they should have waited for these press reviews until they had a final spec car, with final spec software and performance. I know everybody has been hammering them for info, but this has just created more angst and uncertainty instead of scratching the itch for more info in a positive way.

They should NOT have allowed these pre-production cars to be road tested/compared to finished competitor cars.

At this point....LOTUS.... just get the car right for production. We'll be okay with it. Owner reviews and experiences will do more for the car and brand than any press review. Get it right.
It’s version 6 of the product document, the same version I saw last Sept/Oct. The software referred in the review yesterday is the HCI (dashboard) software.

It appears they were between a rock and a hard place - allow not quite production cars to be reviewed, or delay and miss the window to get reviews out ahead of customer cars.
 
400 is adequate in a road car, but was the benchmark for Cayman and M2 Comp three/four years ago. I do agree launching with 416 would have moved the game on and given the Emira a much needed advantage. New M2 will have 455bhp...
I don't think you'll notice 16hp especially as the torque is the same as the 416.
430 would have been nice for the fe, we know both engine and transmission can do it. I expect a software remap could do it
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Other manufacturers (like Porsche) have very strict rules around what journalists can/cannot do during reviews, especially for non-production cars. They also have a bunch of engineers onsite to resolve issues and deal with any questions. It seems Lotus was quite liberal in allowing reviewers to do what they wanted with pre-production cars which might have come back to bite.

If Lotus were better organised, they would have had two car setups (track and sport) available to each reviewer, ability to do tyre swaps (e.g. sports + goodyear or sport + cup2) with engineers directly on hand. Reviewers like EVO / Jethro could then complain directly to the engineers and either get explanations, a different car or tyre setup and maybe some more design detail over a lunch and learn event.
OMG... Could you imagine how useful that wouldve been to all of us still wrangling with set up choice!
Every review is subjective, but if the same reviewer had compared all the options that would've been great.
But could you imagine how dull for everyone else who hasn't bought a car..😉
 

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