Goodyear or Michelin durability ???

[VL3X]

I think when you want to drive it all year long get some decent winter tyres, like Michelin Alpin 4 or 5 in this cold period of year. It just needs one incident in the end tbh.

I'm running the Michelin Alpins in the winter and they're fantastic tires.

 

[Superman]

We get very mixed winter weather in the UK, can range from well below zero C up into the teens (as it is today), but also generally raining and wet. Can make choosing the correct tyres to run through winter somewhat difficult (pure winter tyres are only really appropriate for short periods, although moreso in Scotland). One thing I do know is that I would never run UHP summer tyres (Cup2 or similar) through the winter months though - keep them for dry summer months and dry track days!

 

[24EmiraUS]

I’ve had my Emira for a few months now; 2500 miles, and my experience with the Good Year Eagle F1 SuperSport tires has me wanting a different option for the TriState/NorthEast region. The tires are great at ambient temperatures 70 Fahrenheit and above. However below 68 degrees the tires struggle to maintain grip. I would call them dangerous below 68 and any driving condition that is not a straight line I wouldn’t recommend.

I will be looking for a better solution.

 

[VL3X]

I’ve had my Emira for a few months now; 2500 miles, and my experience with the Good Year Eagle F1 SuperSport tires has me wanting a different option for the TriState/NorthEast region. The tires are great at ambient temperatures 70 Fahrenheit and above. However below 68 degrees the tires struggle to maintain grip. I would call them dangerous below 68 and any driving condition that is not a straight line I wouldn’t recommend.

I will be looking for a better solution.

Michelin PS4S or Conti ExtremeContact Sport 02s.. or Firehawks Indy 500s if you wanna save a few bucks. All 3 come in OEM Emira sizes.

I went with the Conti ECS02s for my GT.

 

[David s]

From my Exige 410 experience I think it’s safe to say that neither the cups nor the good years will last the mileages stated above. If the car is used properly (no track use, but fast driving style), I would say it’s 10kkm for the cup2. Maybe you could use them longer than that, but performance and handling will definitely suffer. Driving such a high performing car with tyres that limit the overall performance level of chassis/engine/suspension etc. just doesn’t make sense for me.

That’s about right. 10ks is about the limit. You not feel it, but after that amount of mileage the performance when u need it the most(usually in emergency) will let u down. The tyres are your only real protection of your expensive asset.

 

[Blackthought_]

I’ve had my Emira for a few months now; 2500 miles, and my experience with the Good Year Eagle F1 SuperSport tires has me wanting a different option for the TriState/NorthEast region. The tires are great at ambient temperatures 70 Fahrenheit and above. However below 68 degrees the tires struggle to maintain grip. I would call them dangerous below 68 and any driving condition that is not a straight line I wouldn’t recommend.

I will be looking for a better solution.

Get out of town! I know the Goodyears are not pilot 4s tires but are they really that bad on track? What temp were you running at and were you pushing 10/10?? This is the first time I’ve heard of this as this is a summer tire and they recommend not running them below 40 degrees Fahrenheit like all other summer tires

 

[24EmiraUS]

Get out of town! I know the Goodyears are not pilot 4s tires but are they really that bad on track? What temp were you running at and were you pushing 10/10?? This is the first time I’ve heard of this as this is a summer tire and they recommend not running them below 40 degrees Fahrenheit like all other summer tires

This was on the street “spiritedly driving” I’d say 7/10. The day started warm in upper 70s. The evening it dropped to around 65-68 degrees. After over an hour of driving I dropped my partner off at home and then started driving home spiritedly and giving it throttle and pushing around turns became very sketchy. It was drifting not gripping. I’d let off let it get traction widen the angle and again spinning tire. In a straight away in 3rd not drag racing just accelerating spinning and had to let off.

 

[Blackthought_]

This was on the street “spiritedly driving” I’d say 7/10. The day started warm in upper 70s. The evening it dropped to around 65-68 degrees. After over an hour of driving I dropped my partner off at home and then started driving home spiritedly and giving it throttle and pushing around turns became very sketchy. It was drifting not gripping. I’d let off let it get traction widen the angle and again spinning tire. In a straight away in 3rd not drag racing just accelerating spinning and had to let off.

What tire pressure are you running hot? seems unusual to me

 

[24EmiraUS]

What tire pressure are you running hot? seems unusual to me

31.5 psi at all four corners

 

[Blackthought_]

31.5 psi at all four corners

I believe you’re supposed to run the rears at least 3 psi more than the fronts according to the door jam. I wonder if this accounted for the crappy behavior

 

[24EmiraUS]

I believe you’re supposed to run the rears at least 3 psi more than the fronts according to the door jam. I wonder if this accounted for the crappy behavior

I’ll adjust it. I haven’t checked the tire pressure since I purchased the vehicle.

 

[KCDarkV]

I’ve been pretty happy with my F1s. Lots of street driving and two HPDEs and they have tons of tread left. 7,000 miles so far.

 

[VL3X]

I’ve been pretty happy with my F1s. Lots of street driving and two HPDEs and they have tons of tread left. 7,000 miles so far.

Yeah I haven't heard anyone complain about the F1s and these cars have tons of grip. They're actually pretty hard to slide out. I'm guessing you ran over an oil slick or something. @24EmiraUS

 

[Rcktmn]

I ran PS4S on my Model 3 Performance for 3 years and I live in Montana. They were exceptional IMO. Very high performance for an all season tire and don’t have to worry about lower temps. Pretty good in the snow and great in the wet

Edit: meant PSAS4 (all season 4 )

 

[FlyNavy01]

I ran PS4S on my Model 3 Performance for 3 years and I live in Montana. They were exceptional IMO. Very high performance for an all season tire and don’t have to worry about lower temps. Pretty good in the snow and great in the wet

I think you meant to type Pilot Sport All Season 4's, the PS4S are a summer tire and suck in the snow.

 

[Rcktmn]

I think you meant to type Pilot Sport All Season 4's, the PS4S are a summer tire and suck in the snow.

Oh shoot haha. Yes, I meant PSAS4. Thanks for catching that

 

[RoryBellows]

I don't remember the exact review but I saw one that said the cup 2s were almost too sticky for the Emira and made it quite difficult to free up the back end if you are into that sort of thing.

 

[digilotus]

Interesting factoid is that the LTS Goodyear F1s and LTS Michelin Cup2 Connects both have a tread wear rating of 240. Previous Cup2s had a tread wear rating of 180. So theoretically they should last about the same.

 

[scc.131.fe]

Interesting factoid is that the LTS Goodyear F1s and LTS Michelin Cup2 Connects both have a tread wear rating of 240. Previous Cup2s had a tread wear rating of 180. So theoretically they should last about the same.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but 240 means that Goodyear's F1 will last 2.4x longer that their reference tire, and the Cup 2 will last 2.4x longer than Michelin's reference tire. But there's no industry standard for that reference tire. Could be apples to pears...

 

[VL3X]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but 240 means that Goodyear's F1 will last 2.4x longer that their reference tire, and the Cup 2 will last 2.4x longer than Michelin's reference tire. But there's no industry standard for that reference tire. Could be apples to pears...

Hm.. Good point. This is what I found here:

UTQG treadwear rating means that the manufacturer took the tires to a testing facility, put it on a test vehicle and measured it against a standard tire with a 100 treadwear rating. If a tire is rated 300, that means it is expected to wear three times faster than the 100-UTQG rated tire.

How does that translate to miles? It doesn’t.