Had the Emira 3 months it’s been in for repairs most of that time

[Ftype]

But, I heard from my uncle's cousin's college roommate on Facebook that there were 200 of them unsold on AutoTrader for half price!

Wow things are bad !

 

[Auto Smiler]

Good to know and thanks for the clarifications. I'm not familiar with the UK-based costs but that makes sense. Stiil, a roughly 5% loss on reselling a new car is minimal in normal terms. I don't see any reason for the panicky sentiment.

The idea of buying a new car and flipping it for profit is a somewhat new phenomenon since the supply crunches started. Perhaps that isn't holding true with the Emira (at least in the UK...I still have a sense that they'll sell for more of a premium on the second hand market here in the U.S. if other recent high-end sports car releases are even a slight indicator).

I agree that private sale, 5% is acceptable. Problem (for me at least) is that I would never consider selling a car like this privately. Trade price for my 1 month old 400 mile vehicle is £65,500, going by WBAC. That’s a significant drop in such a short space of time.

 

[nelly111s]

WBAC is a joke as far as prices go for things out of the ordinary (Lotus). I'm about to sell my Elise in preparation for getting the Emira and WBAC offered me 60% of the cheapest car on Autotrader.

 

[Pegasi]

Having only had the Emira 3 months it’s been in for repairs most of that time - now in for the 6th time - the last repair taking 3 weeks. It’s been nothing but trouble and customer services have not provided their complaints escalation policy despite numerous requests- I have no confidence in the car or the brand anymore and just want it refunded plus the cost of the PPF now being a wasted expense. Here’s a list of some of the problems:

1/ upon delivery the brake pads were not touching all of the discs. After 4 weeks to book in, these were all replaced. Then came the new faults.

2/ When driving, the passenger seat gets very hot - as if heated seats are on max.

3/ The passenger mirror does not close when locking the car, and sometimes does - totally random and when it doesn’t close, the passenger door can only be opened from the inside

4/ The rear boot lid driver side vent is wobbly, as if not secure like the other side is.

5/ The front lights often steam up / condensation but clear eventually - I’ve read this is a common problem on emira

6/ One by side air intake feels as if it moves when I clean the car - as if a catch isn’t secured.

7/ passenger window doesn’t move up or down - locked

8/the car completely broke down a few days after recent fix and left me stranded 60 miles from home. It now requires new ECU

9/ passenger seatbelt doesn’t work 90% of the time as the tensioner is too tight.

After 6 repair visits and constant emails requesting replacement car or refund, my emails are often left unanswered or I’m simply provided with estimate on timescale for parts and repair. Totally dissatisfied with the car, I have no confidence in its safety. This should not happen with a high cost vehicle and customer services should be responsive. My next step is to publicise and put into legal hands if I am not refunded for this problem car. A truly shocking experience.

Any chance the passenger seat, passenger window, and the passenger mirror are all coming from the same wiring loom? I wonder.

 

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With other cars I have traded, WBAC have roughly been on par with dealer prices. But I take your point, I haven’t spoken to a dealer about the Emira.

 

[Ftype]

With other cars I have traded, WBAC have roughly been on par with dealer prices. But I take your point, I haven’t spoken to a dealer about the Emira.

I have just sold my F Type through Motorway for around 10% more than WBAC were offering

 

[shaank]

Hi @ChrisW I'm also in Edinburgh, and have had most of your issues and a stack more too! See thread in my sig for full details. All I can say is it's a great car when it's working - I hope your issues are resolved soon and you can get out in the thing and enjoy it. Mine has been off the road for about 3.5 months of the 7 months I've had it, so trust me I feel your pain.

 

[K_Squared]

Hi @ChrisW I'm also in Edinburgh, and have had most of your issues and a stack more too! See thread in my sig for full details. All I can say is it's a great car when it's working - I hope your issues are resolved soon and you can get out in the thing and enjoy it. Mine has been off the road for about 3.5 months of the 7 months I've had it, so trust me I feel your pain.

@shaank just FYI your instagram links have a typo in them and throw TLS warnings since the TLS certificate is issued to facebook.com before the redirect happens to instagram.com

 

[Hell4Leather]

100% agree. If those were in the U.S. they'd be gone in a day just based solely off the huge waiting list. I'd snatch one up for sure.

If they were in the US they’d have a Lemon Title. That’s my suspicion as to why we haven’t taken delivery yet. The car is still junk; and too slow

 

[Nick in Sydney]

The car is still junk; and too slow

And yet you're still here . . . . bringing your negativity every bloody day.

 

[Nick in Sydney]

Ok... and you're also in a country going through some pretty significant economic turmoil, combined with tightened credit and high interest rates. The rate of real estate transactions have fallen off a cliff as well. I wouldn't read too definitively into the vibe you get from Autotrader as an indication of anything unique to this product.

Spot on. These are RHD cars, so Lotus can't send them to many other markets. Given what has happened to UK interest rates, and the fact that most of these orders were placed two years ago, it's hardly surprising that there are cars available.

 

[Hell4Leather]

And yet you're still here . . . . bringing your negativity every bloody day.

Since when is telling the truth “bringing negativity”? This thread is literally about the car being off the road more than on it. And we’re how far into production and deliveries now…..

 

[Ftype]

Since when is telling the truth “bringing negativity”? This thread is literally about the car being off the road more than on it. And we’re how far into production and deliveries now…..

Agreed I cancelled some months ago but was heavily invested in terms of the time I gave to Lotus and maintain an ongoing interest

 

[Cachaco131]

Agreed I cancelled some months ago but was heavily invested in terms of the time I gave to Lotus and maintain an ongoing interest

"...an ongoing interest" in annoying everyone and contribute to the negativity. Together with @Hell4Leather

Don't you guys have some other more fun activities to engage in? Forums of cars you actually like?

 

[dgrace]

And yet you're still here . . . . bringing your negativity every bloody day.

Just hover over the username and hit "Ignore". Works great. Eventually trolls get bored and wander off if they don't get the attention they're craving.

 

[Porter]

Since when is telling the truth “bringing negativity”? This thread is literally about the car being off the road more than on it. And we’re how far into production and deliveries now…..

Agreed I cancelled some months ago but was heavily invested in terms of the time I gave to Lotus and maintain an ongoing interest

Give me a break. You are a two-man Hell's Chorus of negativity and loathing. It's tiresome and obnoxious in the extreme.

If you actually maintained an ongoing interest as you claim, it would be one thing, but you seem to visit here mostly to gloat about what you perceive as your exceptionally smart choice to cancel your deposit. That, and pontificate about what garbage you perceive the company, brand, and product to be.

If you're being paid to come here and spread negativity and FUD on behalf of a competitor, then just say so so we can put a little label on your profile. If not, you should ask yourself some hard questions about how you're spending your time and the value of what you're contributing.

 

[Hell4Leather]

Give me a break. You are a two-man Hell's Chorus of negativity and loathing. It's tiresome and obnoxious in the extreme.

If you actually maintained an ongoing interest as you claim, it would be one thing, but you seem to visit here mostly to gloat about what you perceive as your exceptionally smart choice to cancel your deposit. That, and pontificate about what garbage you perceive the company, brand, and product to be.

If you're being paid to come here and spread negativity and FUD on behalf of a competitor, then just say so so we can put a little label on your profile. If not, you should ask yourself some hard questions about how you're spending your time and the value of what you're contributing.

Again. Thread is about car being broken more than driven. That’s not what I’d call positive. I still have a deposit down. Do I still window shop? Yes I do. I have 0 issue grabbing another exotic that comes CPO and with a warranty (like McLaren). Spare the McLaren bashing, lifetime power train, lifetime body, 5/60k on the rest- that’s a 2yr old car.

I still want a Lotus - just one that works, and drives fast, looks good, sounds good, feels good.

 

[Krisjc21]

Damn stories like these is very worrying especially there's not a lot of lotus dealers around me if ever I needed it to be serviced really just thinking about cancelling my deposit

 

[Hell4Leather]

Damn stories like these is very worrying especially there's not a lot of lotus dealers around me if ever I needed it to be serviced really just thinking about cancelling my deposit

Careful @Porter and @Nick in Sydney will say you are a troll and mute you forever

 

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