High delivery mileage on new order.

[robrmon]

Wow I’m sorry this is happening
That’s out of order. Reject.

 

[silent cilantro]

I too would pass. You should definitely question the mileage. I am dying to know what excuse they are gonna give you.

 

[Nova]

Sorry, I would never accept a car with that many miles on it as "new", especially if you had to wait 8 months for it as an ordered vehicle. Really sad to hear of this. Hope it gets straightened out with a replacement vehicle. This is just unacceptable.

 

[cyanmauve]

That stinks.

On the one hand, I would be weary. I would want a complete, upfront explanation about the miles.

If the answer were honest and satisfactory, bucks off the sticker, full PPF with warranty, and once ALL issues are 100% fixed, I’d think I’d be alright.

It is a new car with a warranty, so if the car were terribly abused and breaks in the future, you should be covered.

 

[cyanmauve]

Ok, now that I typed that, I wouldn’t want a terribly abused car.

 

[Strmshdow84]

Unless you're emotionally invested and the car has everything you want, I would look at passing on it. If you are, definitely get a discount and see about an extended warranty. I doubt there was that much that they could've done to it within that many miles. I bought a demo car but it had ~100-120 miles on it, and I've been using it as my daily it for the past 7-8 months, 6900 miles and no real issues. Biggest issue I see is all the damage, could've just been damaged during shipping or some careless worker screwing up somewhere. I say if you can use it to your advantage why not? Unless you're making it a museum piece, who cares if it was damaged as long as they fix it and you get a good deal while at it? Just gets that first scratch out of the way lol.

 

[GlobalPilot777]

Reject the car… you know what they say, the minute you walk away from dealer with a (sports) car it depreciates 30%! Thats 1000kms, its a used second hand car now. I would never take it for the full pice.. not even for a 5 or 10k drop, id get myself one on the secondary market with all the sheit fixed with a history on paper. Your be surprised to see so many rejected cars at lotus service centres.. just in my little lotus emira group here in Dubai with 20 chaps 2 have gotten full refund back and returned the car or replaced with an i4… thats 10% in our case.. the other 18 have little stuff going on like anyone else hvac etc

 

[Beachbum]

Whatever you decide to do, make sure you ask to see the ECU print out. Will give you an idea of how hard, or not, the car has been driven in those 327miles. Will also make a decision easier if its been abused and you want to walk away from it

 

[Rayjoedef]

Sorry for your disappointment but I am curious. With an 8 month window from order to delivery, that couldn't have been a new order. Am I correct in assuming that you tasked the dealership to find your spec in open market, regardless of previous title or demo miles? I find it hard to believe a new order would arrive in 8 months in the condition it did.

You certainly have an opportunity to make lemonade from lemons. Have your dealership and while your at it, yourself, review @RichReviews You tube series on his yellow spec purchase. He got it for 20k off msrp due due to 3 main complaints, one being paint work.

If you can get same deal and have it all remediated under warranty, you'll completely mitigate all present and potentially future depreciation.

Now it's easy for me to sit here and give advice as I await my I4....I would have went bat shit on them.....however, you may come out smelling like a rose! Goodluck

 

[Six Speed Stephen]

Whatever you decide to do, make sure you ask to see the ECU print out. Will give you an idea of how hard, or not, the car has been driven in those 327miles. Will also make a decision easier if its been abused and you want to walk away from it

This isn’t available to customers.

 

[Porter]

300+ miles on the odo is not a new car. Period. Dealer demo at best, something more sketchy at worst.

Demand a full accounting of where the car was prior to this sale and what the use was for. Who had possession, for what purpose, was it a marketing car used with mfr plates, etc. Don't accept a non-answer.

 

[Yorkie]

After Lotus messed up my order after a 60 week wait, I found a second hand car at a large discount on new nearly identical to the spec I’d ordered and that had significantly less miles on the clock than your “new” car!!

I’d walk away as this isn’t a new car. Unless you’re happy with the discount they offer you to accept a refurbished used car.

 

[Tteape0]

This isn’t available to customers.

It absolutely is and most dealers that aren’t crap would be more than happy to provide it.

 

[Six Speed Stephen]

It absolutely is and most dealers that aren’t crap would be more than happy to provide it.

It is not available for the Emira. I called three different dealers when I was shopping and none of the techs could access it. Three reputable service centers.

Go on give it a shot yourself

 

[centerpunch]

It's not just the mileage, the car was clearly abused.
.

Rear bumper is missing paint. They are still working on getting a quote to respray the bumper
Side guards are cracked (not significantly but there are hairline fractures).
Front splitter has a hairline crack.
Under side trim pieces missing.
The entire exterior paint is completely marred as if they washed it with steel wool.

It doesn't matter at all WHO abused it or WHAT exactly happened or WHY it happened.

Stop thinking about this as "your brand new car" that you've been waiting a very long time for and it just needs to be cleaned up.

Instead, see it as what it is: a damaged used car.

Of course they will try to convince you that it can be restored to being a brand new new car.

"Just listen to that engine, don't you want it?"

Wrong.

You do not want it.

 

[Emmy]

Sorry for your disappointment but I am curious. With an 8 month window from order to delivery, that couldn't have been a new order. Am I correct in assuming that you tasked the dealership to find your spec in open market, regardless of previous title or demo miles? I find it hard to believe a new order would arrive in 8 months in the condition it did.

You certainly have an opportunity to make lemonade from lemons. Have your dealership and while your at it, yourself, review @RichReviews You tube series on his yellow spec purchase. He got it for 20k off msrp due due to 3 main complaints, one being paint work.

If you can get same deal and have it all remediated under warranty, you'll completely mitigate all present and potentially future depreciation.

Now it's easy for me to sit here and give advice as I await my I4....I would have went bat shit on them.....however, you may come out smelling like a rose! Goodluck

It was a 2500 deposit on a new order we placed in March. We were told once we got an allocation that we can then submit our build order. During the summer we got a call saying our reservation may not make it through for a 1st edition and the dealer asked us to submit our build order to them prematurely so they could input the order as soon as they got an allocation so we didn't miss the window or else we would have to wait to until the base model was released and rebuild again.

 

[dstryr]

I personally would reject the car no matter what discount offered - purely based on the unknown history of mileage, the vehicle and all the suspect damage.

Agree with this; whatever dollar figure they come back with, is it worth the nauseating feeling that something went wrong, something will go wrong, and that you would take a worse hit than the discount if you were to try to move it out of your stable?
I would pin them down as to what is going on. If its bs, you'll know it. If they're honest you'll know it. Either way, your contract is for a new car, not a repaired car. It is on the dealership to perform.

 

[Dino67]

It was a 2500 deposit on a new order we placed in March. We were told once we got an allocation that we can then submit our build order. During the summer we got a call saying our reservation may not make it through for a 1st edition and the dealer asked us to submit our build order to them prematurely so they could input the order as soon as they got an allocation so we didn't miss the window or else we would have to wait to until the base model was released and rebuild again.

This sounds like they took your deposit and started looking for a car to flip to you. I put down a $2500 deposit in February for a V6 manual. I was offered an allocation in October. I was required to lock in my spec and put another $7500 down. Delivery was estimated to be sometime in Q1 2025.

I would check the door jamb. It might have a sticker that states the build date. It wouldn't shock me if the car was built before you placed your deposit.

 

[Dino67]

Not to hijack the thread, but if it is possible to get ECU data, exactly what information is it supposed to provide? Is it like an over-rev report that is available on some Porsches?

 

[Tomwa]

I also don't know what you would expect to get as a read out. Maybe the ECU could store a "highest rev seen" sort of thing. But, break-in period actually wants you to rev the engine and explore the rev range, just don't stay above 4k for long periods (so no highway cruising in a low gear but revving through and past 4k is totally normal and you should do. My dealership was not salient on this point)

It's definitely not going to give a read out of every RPM seen over the course of 300 miles though.