more Emira Art - this time DV....

[eclat2emira]

I may be witnessing magic. I don’t know how you do those reflections, and contouring on the body panel. Quite remarkable. I’m in for a Seneca blue one, yellow calipers and the two tone wheels please

I'll take that, thank you! Only way I can explain it is I paint what's in front of me and trust the process - sometimes it just flows, other times it's harder and takes a while to find your groove.

The image below may be uninspiring to some, but it is my late grandfathers 1960s Thermos flask and I enjoyed composing this and bringing it to life.

 

[Eagle7]

Sometimes there are certain things that "make" an image. For me, the keys on the window sill make this image interesting. They change it from just a still-image of a thermos sitting on the sill, to a story; the story of a working man. This was why I referenced Edward Hopper in my earlier comment. He was so good at changing a still scene into a story. His paintings weren't of people posing, they gave the impression of capturing a moment of something happening, which the subjects didn't know was being captured. It made you look and wonder what was going on. His most famous work of course is Nighthawks which has been used endlessly, but I like his style in general.

Nighthawks done in 1942.

This is another example of an image that tells a story. It's a wall mural painted by a guy named Christopher Barnett https://muralsbychristopher.com/2017/08/14/steampunk-london/

I've loved this one from the moment I saw it. It's interesting enough, but it's the cat that makes the image. Changes it from a still image to a story. Maybe it's just me, but I love this kind of stuff!

 

[eclat2emira]

Sometimes there are certain things that "make" an image. For me, the keys on the window sill make this image interesting. They change it from just a still-image of a thermos sitting on the sill, to a story; the story of a working man. This was why I referenced Edward Hopper in my earlier comment. He was so good at changing a still scene into a story. His paintings weren't of people posing, they gave the impression of capturing a moment of something happening, which the subjects didn't know was being captured. It made you look and wonder what was going on. His most famous work of course is Nighthawks which has been used endlessly, but I like his style in general.

Nighthawks done in 1942.
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This is another example of an image that tells a story. It's a wall mural painted by a guy named Christopher Barnett https://muralsbychristopher.com/2017/08/14/steampunk-london/

I've loved this one from the moment I saw it. It's interesting enough, but it's the cat that makes the image. Changes it from a still image to a story. Maybe it's just me, but I love this kind of stuff!

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You are spot on about the keys @Eagle7 - that's exactly why they are there, to prompt the viewer to create an imagined narrative, which makes it much more personal and engaging, drawing them in:

- This flask belongs to someone, who?
- Flask and keys on the shelf - where have they been or where are they going?
- The sky - it could be sunrise or sunset, is it a shift worker, a taxi driver a nurse or policeman?

The sky is both warm and cool tones as a subtle nod to the flask - it keeps things hot or cold....(how does it do that - how does it know? )

Love the mural, thanks for the link. Here is a fairly ropey photo of the Bat Out of Hell album cover mural I painted on my bedroom wall when I was 17...

 

[frazzer]

Sometimes there are certain things that "make" an image. For me, the keys on the window sill make this image interesting. They change it from just a still-image of a thermos sitting on the sill, to a story; the story of a working man. This was why I referenced Edward Hopper in my earlier comment. He was so good at changing a still scene into a story. His paintings weren't of people posing, they gave the impression of capturing a moment of something happening, which the subjects didn't know was being captured. It made you look and wonder what was going on. His most famous work of course is Nighthawks which has been used endlessly, but I like his style in general.

Nighthawks done in 1942.
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This is another example of an image that tells a story. It's a wall mural painted by a guy named Christopher Barnett https://muralsbychristopher.com/2017/08/14/steampunk-london/

I've loved this one from the moment I saw it. It's interesting enough, but it's the cat that makes the image. Changes it from a still image to a story. Maybe it's just me, but I love this kind of stuff!

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Funny, Edward Hopper came to my mind as soon as I saw the flask too, perhaps the tone and mood. Making what could be a boring object actually engaging is quite a skill!

 

[eclat2emira]

Funny, Edward Hopper came to my mind as soon as I saw the flask too, perhaps the tone and mood. Making what could be a boring object actually engaging is quite a skill!

Spot on, the key is creating the narrative. It should avoid being be too obvious or literal, nor should it be too obscure. It should leave room for the viewer to put their own interpretation on it - I learned this from the very talented SoCal Pasadena artist, Kenton Nelson.

 

[Eagle7]

I've seen many times people imagine that the Nighthawks image would be with famous people like Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, etc. but I never saw it that way. When I look at it, the first thing I see dynamically is the soda jerk; he's saying something to the man in front of him who's listening intently. The body language of the man on the far left says even though he's not the one being talked to, he's also listening intently. The redhead is not interested in the conversation at all; she could care less as she stares at her fingernails in obvious boredom.

This was done in 1942 when World War 2 was going on. This was before television, so the main vehicle for news was radio, newspapers and social gatherings. Someone who worked at a bar, coffee shop, soda fountain, etc. would be a focal point for hearing all kinds of things during the day. A lot of times people would go to those places just to hear the latest, and in this case, it would be about the war and how things were going. In 1942 the country was fresh out of the depression of the 30's, and still reeling from the attack at Pearl Harbor in December of 1941. The men in the painting are well dressed, so they're business men. My impression is the one facing us is a local, possibly a business owner and the redhead is his trophy. The one with his back to us gives me the vibe of being a traveling salesman for some reason; the man in the grey flannel suit type of thing. His clothes aren't as expensive looking as the guy with the redhead next to him.

This was the genius of Hopper; his ability to capture a moment, to tell a story without a single word or anything moving. His work was more subtle than Norman Rockwell's, though I love his work too. Even though Hopper's work was less photographically detailed than Rockwell's, his work always looked "right". He had an eye for scene balance and perspective, and always chose the most interesting color palette for his paintings. Even though his work was subtle, his choice of colors typically was not. Very interesting contrast.

Like this one. A simple composition yet it says so much. Her body language says disappointment on the edge of sadness. She's waiting for somebody who's not just late, but late to the point of maybe not showing up. Has she been stood up? This was in the day when there weren't any personal communication devices. You just waited; not knowing anything as to why they're late. This was done in 1927, near the end of the roaring twenties.

When you look at his work you get the impression these aren't made up; they have that feeling of being scenes and things he's actually seen and remembered, because there was something about it that made an impression on him, and it's that impression that he wants to capture and reproduce, and he does.

Room in New York 1932. This was in the early years of the great depression, right after the stock market crash of 1929. Financial worries were rampant, especially in New York where the market crash hit the hardest. It looks like they're supposed to be going out. She's trying to be patient; she's dressed and ready to go, but the newspaper is more interesting to him than she is at the moment. There's a marked contrast between the focused intensity of his body language as he's reading the news, while hers is lazy boredom; trying to be patient, but with her finger on a piano key as a not-quite-so-subtle reminder to him that they're supposed to be going out, and she's waiting. Brilliant story telling.

I feel so sorry for kids today that are wasting so much of their time on things like Tik Tok, Instagram, etc. It's like they're just skipping across the surface of life, never taking the time to explore the richness of the depth of things. There's so much richness in history, art, philosophy, etc. that they'll never even know exists. Such a shame.

 

[frazzer]

I feel so sorry for kids today that are wasting so much of their time on things like Tik Tok, Instagram, etc. It's like they're just skipping across the surface of life, never taking the time to explore the richness of the depth of things. There's so much richness in history, art, philosophy, etc. that they'll never even know exists. Such a shame.

Too busy 'Amusing Ourselves to Death' as Neil Postman put it, that was back then, what would have thought of this age..

 

[eclat2emira]

I've seen many times people imagine that the Nighthawks image would be with famous people like Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, etc. but I never saw it that way. When I look at it, the first thing I see dynamically is the soda jerk; he's saying something to the man in front of him who's listening intently. The body language of the man on the far left says even though he's not the one being talked to, he's also listening intently. The redhead is not interested in the conversation at all; she could care less as she stares at her fingernails in obvious boredom.

This was done in 1942 when World War 2 was going on. This was before television, so the main vehicle for news was radio, newspapers and social gatherings. Someone who worked at a bar, coffee shop, soda fountain, etc. would be a focal point for hearing all kinds of things during the day. A lot of times people would go to those places just to hear the latest, and in this case, it would be about the war and how things were going. In 1942 the country was fresh out of the depression of the 30's, and still reeling from the attack at Pearl Harbor in December of 1941. The men in the painting are well dressed, so they're business men. My impression is the one facing us is a local, possibly a business owner and the redhead is his trophy. The one with his back to us gives me the vibe of being a traveling salesman for some reason; the man in the grey flannel suit type of thing. His clothes aren't as expensive looking as the guy with the redhead next to him.

This was the genius of Hopper; his ability to capture a moment, to tell a story without a single word or anything moving. His work was more subtle than Norman Rockwell's, though I love his work too. Even though Hopper's work was less photographically detailed than Rockwell's, his work always looked "right". He had an eye for scene balance and perspective, and always chose the most interesting color palette for his paintings. Even though his work was subtle, his choice of colors typically was not. Very interesting contrast.

Like this one. A simple composition yet it says so much. Her body language says disappointment on the edge of sadness. She's waiting for somebody who's not just late, but late to the point of maybe not showing up. Has she been stood up? This was in the day when there weren't any personal communication devices. You just waited; not knowing anything as to why they're late. This was done in 1927, near the end of the roaring twenties.

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When you look at his work you get the impression these aren't made up; they have that feeling of being scenes and things he's actually seen and remembered, because there was something about it that made an impression on him, and it's that impression that he wants to capture and reproduce, and he does.

Room in New York 1932. This was in the early years of the great depression, right after the stock market crash of 1929. Financial worries were rampant, especially in New York where the market crash hit the hardest. It looks like they're supposed to be going out. She's trying to be patient; she's dressed and ready to go, but the newspaper is more interesting to him than she is at the moment. There's a marked contrast between the focused intensity of his body language as he's reading the news, while hers is lazy boredom; trying to be patient, but with her finger on a piano key as a not-quite-so-subtle reminder to him that they're supposed to be going out, and she's waiting. Brilliant story telling.

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I feel so sorry for kids today that are wasting so much of their time on things like Tik Tok, Instagram, etc. It's like they're just skipping across the surface of life, never taking the time to explore the richness of the depth of things. There's so much richness in history, art, philosophy, etc. that they'll never even know exists. Such a shame.

Bloody hell, this is worthy of a proper read and response coming soon @Eagle7 !

 

[eclat2emira]

I don't mind admitting this was a real struggle tonight, quite a lot of swearing involved. Your head has to be in the right space and not sure mine was.

Sometimes it's right to persevere, sometimes you need to walk away. This is not my best work and I may re-do some of it but I have some thing to show at least for the last 3 hours.

 

[freefall_junkie]

I don't mind admitting this was a real struggle tonight, quite a lot of swearing involved. Your head has to be in the right space and not sure mine was.

Sometimes it's right to persevere, sometimes you need to walk away. This is not my best work and I may re-do some of it but I have some thing to show at least for the last 3 hours.
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For an off night that still looks hugely impressive to me, especially the cloud reflections on the roof.

 

[eclat2emira]

For an off night that still looks hugely impressive to me, especially the cloud reflections on the roof.

Thanks, tonight was mainly about the wing mirrors and the sill but I'll take that!

 

[Johnson]

@eclat2emira, my mum is an amateur painter and I’ve just showed her your work. She’s now giving the grid method a go, trying to replicate a famous painting of Moses with the commandments. Just thought I’d let you know how inspiring you are!

 

[Eagle7]

The front rim edge of the sideview mirror is actually black plastic, if that would help.

 

[Johnson]

The front rim edge of the sideview mirror is actually black plastic, if that would help.

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Gee, I love seeing details like this. That’s a fair sized leaf catcher!

 

[frazzer]

I don't mind admitting this was a real struggle tonight, quite a lot of swearing involved. Your head has to be in the right space and not sure mine was.

I know that feeling! Sometimes I come out of the darkroom after hours of working on a print with nothing but frustration...It seems no genuinely creative process is free of those moments, hours and sometimes days

 

[Eagle7]

I know that feeling! Sometimes I come out of the darkroom after hours of working on a print with nothing but frustration...It seems no genuinely creative process is free of those moments, hours and sometimes days

Oh yeah, I know that feeling. Blowing an entire night trying to get a color tone and reflectivity right, and it just doesn't want to come together. Deleting the shader, starting over, and still not getting it dialed in. I've said it before, but these new generation paints are more sophisticated than previous ones. I think the Emira in any of the FE colors is going to stand out like a superstar in the midst of other cars on the road.

 

[eclat2emira]

The front rim edge of the sideview mirror is actually black plastic, if that would help.

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Thanks, I've got it where I want it now - lovely render!

 

[eclat2emira]

@eclat2emira, my mum is an amateur painter and I’ve just showed her your work. She’s now giving the grid method a go, trying to replicate a famous painting of Moses with the commandments. Just thought I’d let you know how inspiring you are!

That's really nice to hear, often good work can be undermined by the original draughting being a bit off, perhaps the proportions or perspective are not quite right - for me using a grid almost completely eliminates this, meaning you can crack on with confidence.

That sounds like a great challenge she is taking on, I hope the process helps her create something she can be proud of.

 

[eclat2emira]

I know that feeling! Sometimes I come out of the darkroom after hours of working on a print with nothing but frustration...It seems no genuinely creative process is free of those moments, hours and sometimes days

You feel the same pain! And it's that feeling of time wasted with no tangible output other than a big spike in blood pressure!

On reflection, I think there must be some powerful learning from spells like that, meaning there is some reward after all.

 

[eclat2emira]

Oh yeah, I know that feeling. Blowing an entire night trying to get a color tone and reflectivity right, and it just doesn't want to come together. Deleting the shader, starting over, and still not getting it dialed in. I've said it before, but these new generation paints are more sophisticated than previous ones. I think the Emira in any of the FE colors is going to stand out like a superstar in the midst of other cars on the road.

As per my comments on @frazzer 's post, I'm now trying not to think of it as a night blown as there is some powerful learning that gets tucked away for future reference.

Nature is one of the world's greatest teachers and in nature it seems pain is one of the most effective ways of making a lesson stick!

And you're right about the Emira, I think there is going to be another massive wave of stunned appreciation once they are "released into the wild" !