The definitive Hawk Brake Pad guide, with Low dust option

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I have always loved Hawk Brake pads. I've raced them, run them on my street cars and think they make an excellent product. The OEM Ferodo DS2500 pads leave A LOT to be desired. They are grabby, the dust they produce is ridiculous, and their operating temp range make them ill suited for HPDE / light Track duty.

The problem finding a good Hawk brake pad as a replacement is the Emira is too uncommon to be listed on many brake supplier websites. So I started researching and found that the Emira has AP Racing Calipers front and rear. The AP Racing part #'s for the calipers are: AP RACING CP7040D61 (Front)and AP RACING CP6600D55 (Rear). The corresponding Hawk brake pads for both the Lotus Emira / Evora GT Front and Rear HAWK brake pad part numbers are:

Front HB586( ).660
Rear HB585( ).660

Hawk makes a line of pads from street to track and everything in between. To find the pad right for your application, all you have to do is insert the letter to choose the pad compound. Once you’ve found the pads you want a google search of part numbers will find retailers. Not all compounds are available for both front and rear. With the Hawk part # a quick google search should list several suppliers. For example I put Performance Ceramics on my car. The Part numbers for f/r pads are HB586Z.660 / HB585Z.660

B = HPS 5.0 (Street for heavier cars, think mustang or camaro)
D = Motorsports (Light-to-medium weight vehicles in HPDE, Track Day events, or Time Trials)
F = High performance Street (Street)
G = DTC 60 (Autocross / Track)
N = HP+ (Street / Autocross and HPDE / Track)
Q = DTC 80 (Track ONLY – High Temps are required for Pads to work)
R = Street/Race pads (Discontinued Product)
U = DTC 70 (Track Only)
Z = Performance Ceramic (Low Dust Street use, light track / HPDE)

I installed the Ceramics and bedded them in. They fit perfectly! Almost zero dust and the brake feel is positive and progressive. Much improved over the dusty Ferodos.
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This might be kind of a big deal. Do you anticipate the ceramic pads accelerating the wear off the brake discs or any other drawbacks?
 
This might be kind of a big deal. Do you anticipate the ceramic pads accelerating the wear off the brake discs or any other drawbacks?
That’s my concern with low dust pads. Surely, if there’s less dust coming off the pads, then the material is harder?
 
This might be kind of a big deal. Do you anticipate the ceramic pads accelerating the wear off the brake discs or any other drawbacks?
I've run the hawk ceramic pads on all my cars. Love them. My personal observation only...but I haven't noticed any sort of increased disk wear. Just a lot less dust.
 
Ceramic pads should give you less rotor wear than a semi-metallic. Brake dust comes from rotor wear as well. There is just less friction between the pad and rotor with the ceramic pads. For street driving, I think the initial bite of the current pads is too high so I'd definitely like to try these out. Less dust and rotor wear would just be a bonus for me.
 
Ceramic pads should give you less rotor wear than a semi-metallic. Brake dust comes from rotor wear as well. There is just less friction between the pad and rotor with the ceramic pads. For street driving, I think the initial bite of the current pads is too high so I'd definitely like to try these out. Less dust and rotor wear would just be a bonus for me.
Greg @GRP , is this something you think you can get for us?
 
As and update...I put about 100 miles on the car today with Hawk Ceramic pads installed. Love it! 10X less dust than the OEM pads and the brake feel is SO MUCH better. Easy to modulate, not grabby, great feel and threshold breaking with max pedal (just short of ABS) was noticeably better. I wish I had done a GPS based stopping distance comparison...but my butt biased G meter says its an improvement all around.
 
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@brainf18 sounds like all around goodness. I really enjoy the stock brake modulation and would not go for it if it was impacted. Definitely on my list now.
 
I've been running Hawk HPS 5.0 pads on my daily driven and occasional HPDE track day GTI and absolutely love them. Low dust, low noise, and great bite. Haven't driven them crazy hard, but I never had any brake fade instances with them. Looking forward to eventually upgrading the stock dusty pads to Hawks on my Evora GT.
 
Greg @GRP , is this something you think you can get for us?
We do sell the ceramic EBC pads already but we can get Hawks as well.
Just shoot me an email.
 
I have always loved Hawk Brake pads. I've raced them, run them on my street cars and think they make an excellent product. The OEM Ferodo DS2500 pads leave A LOT to be desired. They are grabby, the dust they produce is ridiculous, and their operating temp range make them ill suited for HPDE / light Track duty.

The problem finding a good Hawk brake pad as a replacement is the Emira is too uncommon to be listed on many brake supplier websites. So I started researching and found that the Emira has AP Racing Calipers front and rear. The AP Racing part #'s for the calipers are: AP RACING CP7040D61 (Front)and AP RACING CP6600D55 (Rear). The corresponding Hawk brake pads for both the Lotus Emira / Evora GT Front and Rear HAWK brake pad part numbers are:

Front HB586( ).660
Rear HB585( ).660

Hawk makes a line of pads from street to track and everything in between. To find the pad right for your application, all you have to do is insert the letter to choose the pad compound. Once you’ve found the pads you want a google search of part numbers will find retailers. Not all compounds are available for both front and rear. With the Hawk part # a quick google search should list several suppliers. For example I put Performance Ceramics on my car. The Part numbers for f/r pads are HB586Z.660 / HB585Z.660

B = HPS 5.0 (Street for heavier cars, think mustang or camaro)
D = Motorsports (Light-to-medium weight vehicles in HPDE, Track Day events, or Time Trials)
F = High performance Street (Street)
G = DTC 60 (Autocross / Track)
N = HP+ (Street / Autocross and HPDE / Track)
Q = DTC 80 (Track ONLY – High Temps are required for Pads to work)
R = Street/Race pads (Discontinued Product)
U = DTC 70 (Track Only)
Z = Performance Ceramic (Low Dust Street use, light track / HPDE)

I installed the Ceramics and bedded them in. They fit perfectly! Almost zero dust and the brake feel is positive and progressive. Much improved over the dusty Ferodos.
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Sweet! Still enjoying them? Any plans to use them during a HPDE day?
 
I was thinking of ordering the pads from Hawk directly and having them installed during my next service. If there is a better source, I’m all ears. Any pushback from dealers about installing non-oem pads on the car? Warranty issues? Hate having to clean the wheels every three days (at 11,700 miles).
 

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