The end is near (end of the V6)

[eriegz]

In the Netherlands the taxes added to V6 FE Emira amount 100% - pollution tax = 50k EUR, VAT = 20k (21%), total about 70k EUR extra in taxes. Initially i4 would be a lot - as in a LOT - cheaper because of reduced emissions, but final outcome is somehow disappointing, its still not very 'clean' - which results in still high pollution tax added. Half of V6, but still substantial, combined with the VAT.

V6 FE = 160k EUR
i4 = 120k EUR.

I honestly wish we had taxes like this in Canada.

 

[Foxy87]

Is this opinion based on some new information or the usual BS we are hearing all over the internet while knowing it is not true?


„The bad news is the V6 from Toyota won’t meet emissions regulations for 2025 in Europe, so it’s getting the axe. The other engine, the Mercedes Turbo 4, only comes with flacid paddles. So if you want a manual emira, the time is now.“

Anyone can elaborate? As far as I know, my dealer confirmed and is also confirmed in this forum, the V6 is ready to meet new e6 emsission regulations in europe…

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[Porter]

Is this opinion based on some new information or the usual BS we are hearing all over the internet while knowing it is not true?


„The bad news is the V6 from Toyota won’t meet emissions regulations for 2025 in Europe, so it’s getting the axe. The other engine, the Mercedes Turbo 4, only comes with flacid paddles. So if you want a manual emira, the time is now.“

Anyone can elaborate? As far as I know, my dealer confirmed and is also confirmed in this forum, the V6 is ready to meet new e6 emsission regulations in europe…

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There are a lot of armchair experts, even ones with bylines in magazines.

The emissions rating of an engine isn't fundamental to it. It's a result of an entire system of emissions controls that are external to the engine. The choices that manufactures make to achieve a particular emissions result are largely based on cost.

Just because Toyota is no longer using the particular engine in their own vehicles doesn't mean it's incapable of being packaged in a way meets the emissions target, it just means that Toyota has chosen other directions for their own drivetrain engineering in their passenger cars, in their case mostly hybrid.

If Lotus wanted to meet new and more stringent emissions controls using the 2GR-FE, I have no doubt they could hit the targets with some mix of catalytic converters and other external controls. I was shocked by how low the real world emissions test results were for the Emira V6 in the certification testing documents submitted to EPA, particularly compared to the same engine as delivered in the Evora just a few years prior.