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Yea, looking more like a McLaren SummerYou need a car first
I’m glad my dealer didn’t ask for much. Maybe a few of the weaker depositors will get out of the way.That's a wise dealer
Same here brother.I’m still betting on September, if Lotus doesn’t declare bankruptcy by then. If my FE order wasn’t locked in and non-refundable I would have bailed already.
This***Lotus USA indicated last August that production would start in January. I do not see that happening. IMHO USA production will start in Spring 2023 with cars deliverying in the beginning of Summer... Could be a similar situation as the UK, where some builds are moved up and others delayed to spread it out. Time will tell... but I'm in for the long haul. For me it's worth the wait. Totally understand others don't have the patience... bail, move on, don't look back. I have come to the realization that complaining in this situation does nothing other than highlighting the Emira isn't right for you. After my test drive, my tune has changed. The Emira is what I want, period, delays and all.
Unless you foresee Geely going belly up, not going to happen.
How is the Eletre selling? Because there is no way Hethel is turning a profit at 50 cars/month output. A lot hinges on whether the Eletre bombs, and I certainly haven’t heard about long waitlists for it.
There isn't a chance in hell I'd consider a Lotus as a daily drive at this point -- EV or not.Not sure how many deposits they've gotten, but I know dealer tours started. So I assume its generating some buzz (no pun intended). Honestly, all I care about is the Emira. My Emira. And if/when it'll ever arrive.
There isn't a chance in hell I'd consider a Lotus as a daily drive at this point -- EV or not.
Same. Imagine having a small issue that prevents you from driving your fancy new Lotus. So it goes to the dealer and the dealer doesn't hear back from Lotus Corp for days or weeks. Then a part needs to be ordered and that part is on back order and takes weeks or months to arrive. It finally arrives and it's the wrong part, so the waiting continues... You finally get the car fixed and back just in time for winter storage. I can only imagine how long a body repair job could take.
Seriously though.. if this is how Lotus treats excited new customers with deposits and spec orders in, I can only imagine how bad it'll be once we already sign off on delivery and they have our money. It sounds like most dealers get frustrated with Lotus themselves. Maybe is a Lotus of US issue? It seems like they might be trying to do better, but it's seriously not enough. Maybe this is just part of owning an exotic sportscar? I kinda wish I never saw the Emira and just bought a GT4 2 years ago like I originally planned. Now I'm too committed and stubborn to bail.
Unless you're in the big cities they don't worry much about it here in So. Calif. I never ran one on my Corvette because it would have covered 30% of the air intake...and it ruined the look of the front imo!I think here it's a $50 ticket if you don't have it on. So the risk is very much worth keeping the car looking good.
The line is only running 4 days/wk, so 16-18 days/mo x 3 cars a day. But even at double or triple that speed, there’s no way the Emira turns a profit. Sooner or later it really matters.Not sure where you got the 50 cars number… when Harry did his tour in October 10th they were doing 3 cars a day with a target of 8… So 90 cars with a 240 target on a single shift. Production just kicked off in September (just over 3 months ago), so I’m sure it has improved since. Now they are on two shifts. Also, keep in mind they were building all the dealer demos for the UK and Europe.
I love how people just throw numbers out based off guessing.
Right but what happens if the EVs just don’t sell? I don’t know anyone with an Eletre deposit. How many are out there?Regardless, the Emira is a gap car... until EVs are in full swing.
So with the planned 2 shifts, does that mean over 6 months just to make the FE cars for North America? And that assumes the full production is just for the NA cars. So the non-FE cars showing up in 2023 seems pretty much impossible.With so much invested, there is no way they can make enough money to recover that money spent building only 3 cars a shift. That's only 600 cars per year per shift. Even with 3 shifts, that's still only 1800 cars.
And your suggestion to do something about it would be?Whine and complain, and do nothing about it?