Actual 0-60 Times?

[jmn444]

So .3 seconds off the Marketing numbers on the 0-100km. Were it an automatic one might infer the published time could in fact be accurate. 0-62mph in 4.3s which is close to 0-60 in North America at 4.1-4.2. In an automatic under ideal conditions. Considering the 911 GT3 is 3.7. I can save $150k USD and wait the extra 1/2 second; I’ll make that up in the first turn.

You missed it apparently, you aren't making up 2 seconds against a GTS on a road course. That's a huge gap.

And LOL if you think this car will make up speed against a GT3 in the 1st turn...

 

[Lotus64]

No, that's absurd. It doesn't take 0.3s just to get from 60mph to 62mph.

The German magazine's results seem to line up with what I'd expect of the Emira for straight-line acceleration, but the road course results are a bit surprising. I would have expected the excellent brakes and handling would pay more dividends there.

Considering the potential for an extra shift, potential for drop off in peak power in the poweband and the fact that 100kph is a higher speed then 60mph, cars will always take longer to get to 100kph than 60 mph, usually 0.2-0.3s. Fact check and then come back.

 

[Hell4Leather]

You missed it apparently, you aren't making up 2 seconds against a GTS on a road course. That's a huge gap.

And LOL if you think this car will make up speed against a GT3 in the 1st turn...

You missed that this thread is about 0-60 times.

 

[Lotus64]

You missed that this thread is about 0-60 times.

Any reason to say something negative.

"You mean to say that the fully loaded Emira FE launch model is slower to 60 than the stripped, lighter and more powerful top trim final edition Evora by 0.2s? OMG No way!! That's it. I'm out!!!"

 

[jmn444]

You missed that this thread is about 0-60 times.

And yet YOU quoted my 2 second off pace of a GTS comment and replied with nonsense about making up time vs a gt3 in the first corner.

 

[Citizen]

German magazine tested the Emira on Sachsenring the results were according to them, not particularily inspiring. As to 0-100 (62mph) the say the absolute lowest they got was 4,6s (not 4,3 as Lotus claims) Also the laptime was mediocre, 2 seconds off Cayman GTS, worse than Evora 410 and Supra(!) Thay had a Sport suspension with Cup2 tires, of which they suprisingly said is not suited to that track, too soft and too hard at the same time, they said fast turns were its weak point.

Post in thread 'Emira Review Index [7th June 2022]' https://www.emiraforum.com/threads/emira-review-index-7th-june-2022.1442/post-71783

 

[Hell4Leather]

And yet YOU quoted my 2 second off pace of a GTS comment and replied with nonsense about making up time vs a gt3 in the first corner.

Because I don’t give a rip about lap times in a 0-60 thread. If all I want is to go slightly faster as measured by 0-60 and I want to look like an a**hole I have my choice of spending double+ on a Porsche or the same price on a Stingray. The Stingray’s published 0-60 is 2.9 and costs about $85k USD. But again, it’s a Corvette and I can’t own one; I’m not a middle aged clown.

 

[Magicman]

Not sure why anyone would beat on the emira for its 0-60 when it's quicker than its direct competitor the 4.0gts. Its bang on its market place specs with power and performance

You can go lambo quick to 60 in a £10k shitbox if that's your bag

 

[Magma]

But do we have any real world 0-60 times yet beyond what Lotus claims? Seems one reviewer did a dirty one and it was well over the claimed 4.3 secs.

 

[Magicman]

But do we have any real world 0-60 times yet beyond what Lotus claims? Seems one reviewer did a dirty one and it was well over the claimed 4.3 secs.

Given its power to weight and acclaimed traction it would be difficult to understand why it wouldn't hit its claimed numbers given decent conditions

 

[Hell4Leather]

Given its power to weight and acclaimed traction it would be difficult to understand why it wouldn't hit its claimed numbers given decent conditions

I think the German magazine post was decent enough at proving that Lotus’ published times of 4.2 0-60 / 4.3 0-100km. The fact that they tested real world driving 0.3s slower in the 0-100km with a manual gearbox, leads me to believe that 4.2 0-60mph is possible, real world on a nice day, with an automatic V6; which I will happily enjoy.

 

[Dommo]

But do we have any real world 0-60 times yet beyond what Lotus claims? Seems one reviewer did a dirty one and it was well over the claimed 4.3 secs.

This!

I'm pretty sure the point of the thread was to establish the authenticity of Lotus' claimed 0-60 figure, not to debate it's relevance

 

[Magma]

I'd be happy if the car hits what Lotus claims. Will it feel slooooow after my Porsche TTS? Yeeeup...but I also feel I'm in borrowed time and it's a ticking time bomb for a ticket. I just can't help it.
I'll try to buy into that "slow car fast" thing

 

[Lotus64]

But do we have any real world 0-60 times yet beyond what Lotus claims? Seems one reviewer did a dirty one and it was well over the claimed 4.3 secs.

1. Lotus released estimates, which are spot on given the weight, power and historical performance of the Evora.
2. Car and drivers Emira estimates line up with Lotus
3. A reviewer who uses the timestamp to count 0-60 is not the same as instrumented test with the appropriate hardware
4. 5 minutes of due diligence should give everyone interested a fairly accurate picture of the Emira's 0-60, as shown in the earlier comparative analysis post.
5. Few if any of you have every matched your vehicles claimed 0-60 time, so the obsession over something you all won't achieve is comical.
6. A reviewer did a 4.8s 0-60 (using timestamp, not proper equipment). His launch could of been better as well.

 

[Dommo]

1. Lotus released estimates, which are spot on given the weight, power and historical performance of the Evora.
2. Car and drivers Emira estimate line up with Lotus
3. A reviewer who uses the timestamp to count 0-60 is not the same as instrumented test with the appropriate hardware
4. 5 minutes of due diligence should give everyone interested a fairly accurate picture of the Emira's 0-60, as shown in the earlier comparative analysis post.
5. Few if any of you have every matched your vehicles claimed 0-60 time, so the obsession over something you all won't achieve is comical.
6. A reviewer did a 4.8s 0-60 (using timestamp, not proper equipment). His launch could of been better as well.

1. Estimate
2. Estimate
3. Fairly accurate
4. Irrelevant
5. Real world

 

[Lotus64]

1. Estimate
2. Estimate
3. Fairly accurate
4. Irrelevant
5. Real world

Until there are more instrumented tests, then you should use of the most reliable estimates available, which pull from numerous comprehensive objective data points available, instead of pulling anecdotes out from thin air (especially popular these days).

Emira V6 acceleration is a fairly well known quantity, but for those who would rather speculate and complain or continue to remain confused rather than doing the comparative analysis, go ahead and have fun with that. Ignorance is bliss.

 

[Dommo]

Emira V6 acceleration is a fairly well known quantity, but for those who would rather speculate and complain or continue to remain confused rather than doing the comparative analysis, go ahead and have fun with that.

Well please enlighten anyone watching the thread.....what is the fairly well known quantity?.....Are you referring to the 5.3 seconds in the Carwow video or Lotus's claimed 4.3?

 

[jmn444]

Can I speculate and complain about people not comprehending what the OP is asking?

 

[BeHappy]

“The Emira is Crap at 0-60, Period” —-Crap as compared to others in the price point or the next step up like a 720’s 0-60 in 2.9 or a Base Lamborghini around 2.3. The 911 GT3 is 3.7 but is close to double the cost.

A £50k car will match Emira 0-60 I would say better it as in live tests has achieved much better than quoted manufacture of 4.3secs

 

[Lotus64]

Well please enlighten anyone watching the thread.....what is the fairly well known quantity?.....Are you referring to the 5.3 seconds in the Carwow video or Lotus's claimed 4.3?

Emira V6
0-60: 4.2s
5-60: 4.6s
0-100: 10.2s
1/4 mile: 12.7s @ 110 mph


The fairly well known quantities are the weight, power and acceleration numbers of the Evora S / Evora GT / Evora 400. There is little spread in-between those models including the Emira in acceleration. Despite a 3-4% percentage spread in weight and a 15% spread in power in between the 4 models, they all accelerate similarly and generate similar skidpad numbers.