Another breakdown! Id happily have my money back now

[kitkat]

This is starting to sound more like an EV where you have to keep it plugged in all of the time...

Lotus: For the Trickle Chargers

 

[Rollie]

Thanks Gregg.

Few non related issues also identifed when plugged in:


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If I understand you managed to start the car at the petrol station, drive home, car starts but few fault codes?

 

[NicolasB]

Lotus: For the Trickle Chargers

That's actually the new welcome gift for 2023, bespoke Lotus trickle charger in a color matching your Emira.

 

[EspritGuy]

That's actually the new welcome gift for 2023, bespoke Lotus trickle charger in a color matching your Emira.

LHD version, please. And Touring suspension.

 

[Hell4Leather]

Going back to the reason for the thread - OP would like a car that works for them as well.

 

[JasonR]

Are there any updates on what Lotus is doing to fix this car?

 

[Lots_Of_Trouble]

Well ,I see this topic has gone way off piste...

Back on said topic,my car is still in my garage having not been picked up and dropped off at a Lotus garage,almost a week later...

I did speak to a chap at The Solihull garage the other day who mentioned that early models are getting the seat belt recall,so that will also be applied to mine when it eventually goes in

 

[eriegz]

Well ,I see this topic has gone way off piste...

Back on said topic,my car is still in my garage having not been picked up and dropped off at a Lotus garage,almost a week later...

I did speak to a chap at The Solihull garage the other day who mentioned that early models are getting the seat belt recall,so that will also be applied to mine when it eventually goes in

Hopefully all your issues get sorted out soon! Regarding your sentiment expressed in the title of this thread, for what it's worth I'd rather be in your shoes right now and have a "broken" Emira parked downstairs, rather than still be waiting another 8-ish months for mine to arrive in Canada (even though I put down a deposit the day after the reveal).

 

[dgrace]

Hopefully all your issues get sorted out soon! Regarding your sentiment expressed in the title of this thread, for what it's worth I'd rather be in your shoes right now and have a "broken" Emira parked downstairs, rather than still be waiting another 8-ish months for mine to arrive in Canada (even though I put down a deposit the day after the reveal).

Well on the bright side, at least you're not making payments on it!

 

[Hell4Leather]

Well ,I see this topic has gone way off piste...

Back on said topic,my car is still in my garage having not been picked up and dropped off at a Lotus garage,almost a week later...

I did speak to a chap at The Solihull garage the other day who mentioned that early models are getting the seat belt recall,so that will also be applied to mine when it eventually goes in

Can they at least hook you up with one of the collectors boxes or a leather racing jacket?

 

[Lots_Of_Trouble]

Hopefully all your issues get sorted out soon! Regarding your sentiment expressed in the title of this thread, for what it's worth I'd rather be in your shoes right now and have a "broken" Emira parked downstairs, rather than still be waiting another 8-ish months for mine to arrive in Canada (even though I put down a deposit the day after the reveal).

As much as I moan,about a new car that keeps having issues (expected) ,I love the car and can't bring myself to sell it.

 

[Hell4Leather]

As much as I moan,about a new car that keeps having issues (expected) ,I love the car and can't bring myself to sell it.

Based on the current offerings in the market you’re likely going to sit on it for a while if you did.

 

[FlashingBlade]

Well this is a thread that certainly went off-topic

I think we have to be realistic with what to expect from the Emira and that should really be part of the purchasing process.

I was looking for a car that handles well when you find yourself on a decent twisty section, had enough power but not so much that you couldn't rev it out without doing silly speeds, a manual gearbox for the involvement aspect. Mid-engined (I've never had one so bucket list thing) and all with enough practicality to be used 'most' days.

If you want straight line speed, get an EV
If you want a track weapon, get an Exige

The Emira is a proverbial jack of all trades (but master of none). The only concern I've got is the reliability aspect and all the niggles that seem to be coming to light. That said, you don't hear from owners with no issues and its the same with most things in life, its only the negatives that get air time.

When I placed my order just some of the cars i was considering were:

Ferrari 360 manual - the same price as Emira, manual gearbox, similar power and speed but you'd be talking a 10+ year old car versus a brand new one with warranty etc.

BMW M4 Xdrive - more practical and faster than the Emira but also 300kgs heavier and bigger.

Audi R8 1st gen - similar to the 360
Audi R8 2nd gen - more expensive and automatic

Oh, and I remember when they released the TTRS and people said it would make the R8 V10 pointless since the TT was virtually just as fast and a lot cheaper, map one and it'll walk the R8 but I'd still much rather have an R8

 

[Finbarqs]

Well this is a thread that certainly went off-topic

I think we have to be realistic with what to expect from the Emira and that should really be part of the purchasing process.

I was looking for a car that handles well when you find yourself on a decent twisty section, had enough power but not so much that you couldn't rev it out without doing silly speeds, a manual gearbox for the involvement aspect. Mid-engined (I've never had one so bucket list thing) and all with enough practicality to be used 'most' days.

If you want straight line speed, get an EV
If you want a track weapon, get an Exige

The Emira is a proverbial jack of all trades (but master of none). The only concern I've got is the reliability aspect and all the niggles that seem to be coming to light. That said, you don't hear from owners with no issues and its the same with most things in life, its only the negatives that get air time.

When I placed my order just some of the cars i was considering were:

Ferrari 360 manual - the same price as Emira, manual gearbox, similar power and speed but you'd be talking a 10+ year old car versus a brand new one with warranty etc.

BMW M4 Xdrive - more practical and faster than the Emira but also 300kgs heavier and bigger.

Audi R8 1st gen - similar to the 360
Audi R8 2nd gen - more expensive and automatic

Oh, and I remember when they released the TTRS and people said it would make the R8 V10 pointless since the TT was virtually just as fast and a lot cheaper, map one and it'll walk the R8 but I'd still much rather have an R8

Would you get less issues than the emira? I’m just glad we’re finally comparing the Emira to cars that cost a lot more. Sure, it may have issues, but we expected it to have issues for this price point!

 

[FlashingBlade]

I'd suspect that most manufacturers have issues. BMW gets a bad wrap for example but I've had two F32's from new now and neither have skipped a beat. The Emira does *seem* to have more issues than average though when you take acount that this is the only car they make (i.e. no variations to consider) and the limited numbers they've produced. Again, it seems that a good 25-30% have an issue of some kind.

 

[alvitdk]

Would you get less issues than the emira? I’m just glad we’re finally comparing the Emira to cars that cost a lot more. Sure, it may have issues, but we expected it to have issues for this price point!

This is what I just don't seem to understand. Why is it expected to have a car with issues at a 100k+ price point....seems to me it should rather have fewer issues than a 50k car, no? We accept and come up with excuses why, but none of them make much sense to me. I had a Porsche Cayman S for less than 80k new for 9 years, and it never ever skipped a beat (well until the PDK decided it was time to go south).

 

[KAR120C]

This is what I just don't seem to understand. Why is it expected to have a car with issues at a 100k+ price point....seems to me it should rather have fewer issues than a 50k car, no? We accept and come up with excuses why, but none of them make much sense to me. I had a Porsche Cayman S for less than 80k new for 9 years, and it never ever skipped a beat (well until the PDK decided it was time to go south).

IMO, it's not so much the price point but the volume. Higher volume marques have more development money, more robotics, and more units to discover and weed out issues and will probably have less problems. Think of models like Jaguar, Rover, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, and other low volume cars. Not known as super reliable. In 2022 BMW sold almost 2400 cars for every Lotus sold. They've reached a pretty high reliability. I know correlation does not mean causation, but in this case it might!

 

[Beerwolf]

That's the problem. Sometimes a battery that's not working properly checks out fine when tested. If you have a battery charger, try a full deep charge. If the battery is okay, it'll go to a full charge and the fully charged light on your charger should light up. If the battery has issues, it will either take a lot longer to charge up, sometimes over night, or the fully charged light will never come on.

Get a battery charger if you don't already have one. It's a relatively cheap way to test the quality of your battery, and it doesn't hurt to have one if you ever need one.

I bought my Emira from Kumschick Cars in Switzerland and they included a high capacity CTEK trickle charger as standard. Great service, and they warned to keep it on charge if I’m not driving it very regularly - good advice!

 

[Beerwolf]

This is what I just don't seem to understand. Why is it expected to have a car with issues at a 100k+ price point....seems to me it should rather have fewer issues than a 50k car, no? We accept and come up with excuses why, but none of them make much sense to me. I had a Porsche Cayman S for less than 80k new for 9 years, and it never ever skipped a beat (well until the PDK decided it was time to go south).

But I had a Boxster S from new for 10 years (still have it) and had repeated failure of the clutch microswitch which stopped it from starting, completely blew a clutch at 50k km, blew 2 ignition coils despite driving it gently and dealer serviced no expense spared - I still love it, but sadly porkers can have bad days too. So far the Emira is going well - fingers crossed!

 

[SlavaUkraini]

All cars have faults. Especially at this higher price range, they aren’t as reliable as they should be. It’s easy to get ticked when you spend this kind of money and you don’t feel completely satisfied. Look at McLarenLife if you want to really see some dead cars for the money…

With that said, you will find faults in whatever you search for in life. I personally prefer the GT4 over the Emira, but I also spec’d mine to a cool $130k. For that kind of money I could have gotten an Emira and had a lot left over. If I were to nitpick that and find faults, I could do a whole lot from a financial sense and probably a couple from the car also.

You could take a GTS and tune it to GT4 spec and have the same engine for cheaper, and get some suspension mods for example. Hell, if you don’t care about a naturally aspirated engine (I do - but others don’t), you could get a Cayman T and really tune it to be just as quick. The point is, if you go searching for the grass being greener on the other side, you will always keep looking and never really be happy. I’m happy with my GT4, but others would be happier with a pre owned California, or Aston Martin or an Emira and 30k. Those are all fine answers as well. We are on the Emira forum. If you want to complain about emiras reliability problems that makes sense because it’s unacceptable. Complaining about the specs of the car doesn’t make sense. It’s been known, and the car is what it is. Just my .02