Anyone received their 30 day notification yet?

[Scruff111S]

My grandad had one I found out the other day! (Not that I was banging on incessantly about the emira to anyone that would listen you understand )

I know what you mean. I am now know as a Lotus bore, talking about a car that nobody has in there garage yet.

 

[Scruff111S]

My grandad had one I found out the other day! (Not that I was banging on incessantly about the emira to anyone that would listen you understand )

So, you didn't know it till the other day, your interest in Lotus is obviously in the blood.

 

[Hedge]

Now for those who say Lotus should not say / communicate anything until there is something to communicate, I also disagree.
Any relationship, even a business one like ours as customers with the provider Lotus is based on communication.
I would still be married if our communication was better, and if she didn't gain 20 kilos, wasnt unfaithful, an alcoholic and was a better time keeper, but the main thing is always communication.
A family relationship, any partnership, all and any relationships function by or are improved by good communication, EVEN if sometimes that communication is "pointless" and goes nowhere, its still communication, it still shows you care and mean something to the other side of the relationship.

I think we are all feeling as if we mean nothing to Lotus and thats a shame as its a negative in the relationship which should be a positive and this relationship should be nurtured so that we enjoy our Lotus experience (tomorrow) and that we talk about Lotus and recommend Lotus and buy from Lotus again.

Hence, Lotus do really need to pull their fingers out and start treating their customers as important parts in their plans as without us, they will fail and Hethel will lose its factory and jobs as Geeeeeeeleyyy will soon find out if customers and journalists are unhappy and they will not hesitate in shaking the whole thing up, its certainly what I would be doing.

Anyway, no more ribbing Lotus as I am now 10 mins away from there and looking forward to driving the damn EMIRA tomorrow !!!... Dont you guys ruin my day... telling me Hethel locals things Lotus is full of pitch fork farmers, or that Matt W could not get wet if he fell in a pond, I need positivity !!!...

Having said that, I for one will 100% write a polite but scathing email next week to said Matt W if no communication comes from lotus CS (coming soon) next week and I suggest everyone who complains on this forum (like me) does the same as complaining amongst ourselves maybe makes us feel better but it gets us nowhere, as we are nowhere. So lets take some small action and all get in touch with Lotus and not just to CS, be brave and go for the big guns.

Anyway soon time for bed as its a big full LOTUS DAY tomorrow. I'd say I cant wait, but from what I have heard its only about 1.5 hours in the cars during the 8 hours on site, which is a bit poor for 1000 squid, but hey ho, im here, may as well do it .
(no, ive never been married)

Can you let us know how good Smooth FM is on the radio?
Focus on the important things.

 

[jpizzle]

What’s happened?

I’ve been on a two week hiatus/ban from the forum due to getting married and honeymoon, logged on for the first time today in over two weeks and it seems everyone is fuming. Has anyone had confirmation of a September delivery yet or not!?!

 

[EspritGuy]

What’s happened?

I’ve been on a two week hiatus/ban from the forum due to getting married and honeymoon, logged on for the first time today in over two weeks and it seems everyone is fuming. Has anyone had confirmation of a September delivery yet or not!?!

Not withstanding your good news, it seems here that the honeymoon is over after the Emira reveal and excruciating wait.

 

[Scruff111S]

What’s happened?

I’ve been on a two week hiatus/ban from the forum due to getting married and honeymoon, logged on for the first time today in over two weeks and it seems everyone is fuming. Has anyone had confirmation of a September delivery yet or not!?!

Definitely not. we were told we were getting an email this week, but not received. With regards to September delivery, who knows, we are not being told anything.

 

[Mctaff]

I’m seriously considering a new birthday present that I can actually have for my birthday!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206056492541

 

[Den]

Let's be honest, this company IS a complete joke. So insanely disrespectful (and stupid) to take deposits from prospective customers and then act as if they don't exist. Nobody would put up with this sh*t from another person in their life, so why should Lotus be different. If I could get my deposit back, I'd be gone. Frankly, I'm so put off by Lotus at this point, I am going to flip the car the moment it arrives. I should have taken the GTS slot I turned down to join this Circus.

Us Brits are used to patiently queuing and waiting

What’s happened?

I’ve been on a two week hiatus/ban from the forum due to getting married and honeymoon, logged on for the first time today in over two weeks and it seems everyone is fuming. Has anyone had confirmation of a September delivery yet or not!?!

What’s happened?

I’ve been on a two week hiatus/ban from the forum due to getting married and honeymoon, logged on for the first time today in over two weeks and it seems everyone is fuming. Has anyone had confirmation of a September delivery yet or not!?!

Just people whining as usual.
Congratulations on your big day

 

[Mctaff]

Us Brits are used to patiently queuing and waiting


Just people whining as usual.

two great British traditions we should be proud of post brexit. No one can stop us queuing and whining now with their pesky EU rules!!

 

[roundincircles]

The lack of an update is getting beyond 'tyresome'.......as some have said Lotus need to understand customer support, word of mouth and general goodwill is waining.....sure I understand they have no experience or skills like traditional distributors but common sense should have kicked in by now, let those depositors know the state of play!!!!!

 

[Mistral]

Were you unaware of the current situation? Being new to the forum, you've used your first 6 posts to dump vitriol on the company.

Here's the communication; they'll let you know what's going on as soon as they know. Set your expectations based on that.

A forum allows people to impart information, express opinions and sometimes add a little humour.

As Lotus are known to monitor this forum, it's a good place to express discontent with their communications, and, is a second string to those people who are contacting Lotus direct.

I sense that you don't appreciate our UK attempt at humour, often thinly disguised sarcasm. Perhaps it's too subtle for you. We are, after all, two countries separated by a common language.

I greatly appreciated your renderings and said so when I joined the forum. I thought they were excellent. I've also agreed with much of what you've contributed since 7th July of last year when I placed my deposit. Like you, I'm really looking forward to the test drive and taking ownership.

Let's not fall out over a disagreement of approach, but don't ever attempt to censor or bully me either.

 

[Nova]

Not withstanding your good news, it seems here that the honeymoon is over after the Emira reveal and excruciating wait.

Yea, it's now the "what have you done for me lately" phase of relationship development. Lotus is being a little distant and non-attentive and we have all become a bit jealous as a result.

 

[lion shf]

No I'm not an employee, however I'd like them to give a damn and care about the quality of the work they're doing when building our cars. If any of them read this forum, the tone and attitude on display here recently would not encourage or build up their morale. In fact, it might do just the opposite.

We all know what's been going on the last few months, so it doesn't make anything better by piling on the negativity.

Be civil, stay calm and carry on as it were.

Or we can do as we please cause we’re (I) grown ass men. Please don’t direct or instruct others.

 

[Magma]

Eagle7...you remind me of a mother who's always defending her young mischevious boy every time he gets in trouble.

"Gosh officer, that just can't be my little precious Johnny! He's such a darling boy and I know he didn't pull out all of Mr. Simpsons' prized roses! Just look at that scrumptious little face!"

...All the while little Johnny is kicking at the officer's shin with a dirt smudged smirk on his face as his mother is holding him back.

 

[Leonard]

Now now lads, let's not start turning on ourselves.
Its all getting a little bit Lord of the flies....
Now doubt @emiraspain will be on in a mo to lighten the mood and tell us what an amazing time he's had.
Or he will tell tales of woe about no photos and poor seating position and then we can get the pitch forks out again

 

[Eagle7]

A forum allows people to impart information, express opinions and sometimes add a little humour.

As Lotus are known to monitor this forum, it's a good place to express discontent with their communications, and, is a second string to those people who are contacting Lotus direct.

I sense that you don't appreciate our UK attempt at humour, often thinly disguised sarcasm. Perhaps it's too subtle for you. We are, after all, two countries separated by a common language.

I greatly appreciated your renderings and said so when I joined the forum. I thought they were excellent. I've also agreed with much of what you've contributed since 7th July of last year when I placed my deposit. Like you, I'm really looking forward to the test drive and taking ownership.

Let's not fall out over a disagreement of approach, but don't ever attempt to censor or bully me either.

The first post of yours I recall was this one in this thread, where I noticed you'd just joined the forum about 60 days ago:

I actually do like British humor, which is usually subtle, dry and understated, but referring to Matt Windle as arrogant and incompetent didn't come across as humorous to me, which is partly what prompted my comments.

Thank you for the compliments with regards to my renderings, and other posts of mine. I read a lot and didn't recall your first posts.

As for approach, I'm not opposed to criticism, but I much prefer constructive criticism. With regards to what's going on at Lotus, we really don't know a whole lot because they aren't saying a whole lot, and all indications are they're not going to say a whole lot. It's their choice and right to be this way if that's what they choose. It's not what I would choose, and I'd hazard most in this forum wouldn't choose this approach either, but that's where we're at. It's been mentioned ad infinitum ad nauseam in here, so I'm quite sure they know how we feel. Continuing to go on about it, and insulting the people at Lotus I feel is counter-productive.

None of us know what it's like to be in Matt's shoes right now, or any of the other people in charge of things, or what they might be having to deal with from execs at Geely. I want Lotus to succeed, so my desire is to try and improve morale there instead of beating it down.

There's another issue at play here, and that's the forum itself. Whenever I log on, I've noticed there's usually a handful of members signed in, and at least 3 times as many 'guests', and sometimes there's even more than that. There are thousands of deposits in, and since this forum is the most active and best for activity about the Emira, it looks like a lot of people who are not forum members access and read the forum. What kind of an impact does some of the nastiness have, on whether or not people might like to join? How many people might be thinking of joining, but hesitate because of some of the aggression on display in here? For example, I make a post calling for civility and being classy, and E33MIRA pretends he's unblocked me long enough so he can volunteer to be the poster child for classless incivility. It doesn't bother me, but I wonder how it might affect potential new members. There may be people who would like to join and ask questions, but are afraid to because they think they might be attacked. Being civil and classy, even if we're criticizing, has absolutely no down-side.

Just as an example, you placed a deposit last year in July, but it took you until May 31 of this year to join the forum, and you stated that you had been viewing and reading it for some time. There has to be a lot of people like you who're doing the same thing, but haven't joined yet. It would be nice if they'd join and participate. We have some very talented people in here; there's no telling who might join if things were friendly. We've had a few Lotus employees join, identify themselves as employees, make a few posts then go silent. Why did they stop posting? Were they asked to stop by Lotus management, or did they see some of the hostility and decide maybe it was better if they didn't participate.

My request is that we who are the frequent commenters, do our best to keep things civil and classy. so we can encourage some of those many guests who are just watching to join the forum. By and large we've been doing pretty good until the last few months of frustrations caused by the delays.

Agreed on not having a fall out, and I assure you, if I were intending to censor or bully someone, they'd know it lol.

Maybe we can start a thread about what we're looking forward to the most in getting our cars (besides just getting them in the first place lol). Let's try and talk about something positive instead of dwelling on the frustrations of the delays and lack of definitive information about that. Vehicle manufacturers everywhere are having these same problems, so if we can just be patient, that will be less stressful I think. When Matt said in his video that Lotus would hold to the original pricing our deposits and orders were based on, that's a pretty good statement that Lotus does care about us, because I can imagine there was quite a conversation between Matt and Geely about the cost of doing that. Considering how bad inflation is right now, that's a pretty good commitment.

I won't be getting a test drive (my dealer is 500 miles away). I'm just looking forward to my car being delivered (I'm having it delivered by covered carrier). That will be the first time I see an actual Emira, and the first time I get to sit in and drive one; and it will be mine. I'm greatly looking forward to the first few owners getting their cars, and reading about their impressions and experience.

 

[Eagle7]

Or we can do as we please cause we’re (I) grown ass men. Please don’t direct or instruct others.

I was hoping for more of the "grown" men, and less of the "ass men", but as you say, I too can do as I please, including directing or instructing if I so choose. I suppose you didn't realize that telling me to "Please don't direct or instruct others" is itself directing and instructing others? Oh the humanity.

 

[Eagle7]

Eagle7...you remind me of a mother who's always defending her young mischevious boy every time he gets in trouble.

"Gosh officer, that just can't be my little precious Johnny! He's such a darling boy and I know he didn't pull out all of Mr. Simpsons' prized roses! Just look at that scrumptious little face!"

...All the while little Johnny is kicking at the officer's shin with a dirt smudged smirk on his face as his mother is holding him back.

Nice, but considering how much detail you put into describing little Johnny, I wonder if that's who you identify with; who of course does NOT like to be disciplined in any way, shape or manner.

Quite often, the only difference between civil and hooligan is discipline, or the lack thereof. There are a lot of things we have no control over in our lives, but there are two things we all do have control over; our attitude and behavior. Choose wisely.

 

[eriegz]

I'm just gonna leave this here...

 

[Hedge]

I’m seriously considering a new birthday present that I can actually have for my birthday!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206056492541

Don’t do it! The Emira is coming. Just hold on a little bit longer.