Did lotus rob us on horsepower?

[Eagle7]

Those speeds are just silly for this car, even though it can do it. What was their fuel consumption, 5 mpg?

 

[Tracked Emira]

Agreed. To each their own. I didn’t expect such a strong reaction to my comment.

You walk past a big mirror and say....What are you looking at!?...And you're like...Ohhh, it's just me

 

[Beachbum]

Not watched either video, at work and they frown on that sort of thing However if all they are using is the car Speedo, then the chances of that being 100% accurate are almost zero. By the time you get above 100mph, most speedo's have an error factor of at least +/- 5% and over 150mph its usually a lot more. Its usually on the plus side

 

[hellasf1]

You can do all the weight saving out there but at the end of the day if you want the Emira to deliver what you think it should being as exotic looking car, you will need to add more power IMO! I think the sweet spot is JUBU 460 Kit with all weight saving you can do. If you have the money I think the JUBU 500 is absolutely perfect!

I loved the Emira in many aspect but 1 main concern when I test drove it. It’s not a fast car. People that tell you it’s fast, haven’t had fast cars. It’s quick yes and it’s plenty for most, which is why Lotus gave it what it did. They are not wrong since people are buying them and loving it. But the cost your paying isn’t for the power and I think we can all agree on this, do we wish we all were given more yes obviously lol!

That being said when I placed my order I knew I would be upgrading the power and I have already gone with the JUBU 440 kit. Absolutely love it has a launch control and raising the rpm to 7,200 was also a need since I felt it cut power sooner than the claimed 6,800 (others have said the same thing so it’s not wrong, some just are more in tune with what’s going on than others) The way I have my car set up now is how the car “power wise” should have come from the factory. So to me I am where I should have been stock, so I do plan on further stages soon probably the end all be all for me is the JUBU 500 with forged internals down the road.

I know these stages will cost money but at the end of the day I will pay just over what a manual GT4 would cost me (new as I would spec before I lost my allocation since they discontinued it)
and I will have more power, better handling (with some more mods) way better looking/special looking car and better sounding.

It cost less to go with JUBU 460 then do all the weight savings. So how I structured my build is 440 JUBU with some weight saving small items exhaust and battery, next is 460 JUBU then all other impactful weight saving mods like wheels and seats etc.
I think with this I will be really happy for awhile bc I would have saved around 130-150 lbs give or take depending what I choose, and ill be at minimum 460 hp as the tune only restricts tq so depending on my specific engine I could be at 475-490 according to JUBU. I would do a dyno at some point to see my numbers and my tq is limited at max 369 lb/ft until I do the 500 kit.

That’s my plan doesn’t have to be yours, make it your own, be honest in what you want out of your car realistically with your budget and needs, make a plan to get there dont stress and enjoy driving the car in the process and don’t wait till the “build” is done bc we all know it’s never done lol. Stay in present, enjoy the journey and have fun!

 

[Jinba ittai]

You walk past a big mirror and say....What are you looking at!?...And you're like...Ohhh, it's just me

Ha! Or I’m just trying to keep the forum positive. If I inadvertently offend a snowflake I’ll try to walk it back. Pretty sure I’m being trolled now though so I’m done.

 

[CarGuy11]

You can do all the weight saving out there but at the end of the day if you want the Emira to deliver what you think it should being as exotic looking car, you will need to add more power IMO! I think the sweet spot is JUBU 460 Kit with all weight saving you can do. If you have the money I think the JUBU 500 is absolutely perfect!

I loved the Emira in many aspect but 1 main concern when I test drove it. It’s not a fast car. People that tell you it’s fast, haven’t had fast cars. It’s quick yes and it’s plenty for most, which is why Lotus gave it what it did. They are not wrong since people are buying them and loving it. But the cost your paying isn’t for the power and I think we can all agree on this, do we wish we all were given more yes obviously lol!

That being said when I placed my order I knew I would be upgrading the power and I have already gone with the JUBU 440 kit. Absolutely love it has a launch control and raising the rpm to 7,200 was also a need since I felt it cut power sooner than the claimed 6,800 (others have said the same thing so it’s not wrong, some just are more in tune with what’s going on than others) The way I have my car set up now is how the car “power wise” should have come from the factory. So to me I am where I should have been stock, so I do plan on further stages soon probably the end all be all for me is the JUBU 500 with forged internals down the road.

I know these stages will cost money but at the end of the day I will pay just over what a manual GT4 would cost me (new as I would spec before I lost my allocation since they discontinued it)
and I will have more power, better handling (with some more mods) way better looking/special looking car and better sounding.

It cost less to go with JUBU 460 then do all the weight savings. So how I structured my build is 440 JUBU with some weight saving small items exhaust and battery, next is 460 JUBU then all other impactful weight saving mods like wheels and seats etc.
I think with this I will be really happy for awhile bc I would have saved around 130-150 lbs give or take depending what I choose, and ill be at minimum 460 hp as the tune only restricts tq so depending on my specific engine I could be at 475-490 according to JUBU. I would do a dyno at some point to see my numbers and my tq is limited at max 369 lb/ft until I do the 500 kit.

That’s my plan doesn’t have to be yours, make it your own, be honest in what you want out of your car realistically with your budget and needs, make a plan to get there dont stress and enjoy driving the car in the process and don’t wait till the “build” is done bc we all know it’s never done lol. Stay in present, enjoy the journey and have fun!

Does the JUBU raise the redline on the dash display too?

 

[Steve24]

A lot of the mods sound great and I applaud them being available.
I’ll almost certainly do some of them myself, but not because I feel I’ve been ripped off by Lotus.
I’ll do them because I feel it may make the car even better than it already is.

Any claim that Lotus somehow ripped people off because the car doesn’t perform as advertised is BS.

The car does perform as advertised. There’s plenty of evidence of that.
Lotus don’t make traffic light drag cars, and they never claimed the Emira was going to be a car for that.
If that’s a big deal for anyone, you either bought the wrong car or you need to do the mods that have been described above and see if that helps.

But don’t give me this crap about how because some knob in a hot hatch can blow you off at the lights you have been ripped off.

 

[hellasf1]

Does the JUBU raise the redline on the dash display too?

Only raise to 7k there is a system issue do show about that, but you can still go to 7200. Shifting at 7k on the dash thou is still really nice!

 

[Honcho]

Not sure on the figures, but if they are less than advertised Lotus should change as advertised. Saying that, the Emira is not a track car in the form it sells. The suspension is way too soft. Check out the type of spring rates Evora users are using on track and even coming with from factory and you can see a missive difference. Personally for me, the Emira is an amazing looking car with great interior comfort, has a level of exoticness in V6 form, great sound and good road handling. For track i'd be going for something lighter or with a better suspension setup. Power is not an issue for me.

 

[ADC]

Only 163 mph

and only 5th gear

Top speed is in 6th, if vmax is your cup of tea.

 

[ADC]

Feels relevant to the topic at hand, but regardless of swapping ECUs / tuning / raising the limit for more power or not, one thing that I could maybe talk myself into addressing via aftermarket tuning is having a less aggressive limiter... the stock behaviour is dreadful and almost dangerous. That right there essentially "robs" you of some top end, because you can't even give it the full 6800 without it throwing its hands up and hard cutting the fuel, so you tend to shift earlier to give it a wide berth (or at least I do).

That aside, I don't feel particularly aggrieved about the power or power delivery otherwise. And apparently it's ok to have different opinions.