Emira Issues - from final production cars

[TomE]

I suspect it’s due to storage conditions at BCA at Upper Heyford prior to delivery. Should have been picked up in PDI.

 

[Eagle7]

I have a folder with a LOT of photos of Emiras, from VP Cars, to customer cars, and none of the cars in any of the photos have any rust on the rotors with the exception of ONE photo of an Emira sitting in front of an Italian dealership, so this phenomenon has to be limited to cars that have left the factory and were stored elsewhere before the customer received it.

Here's a picture of an Emira on the production line, and you can clearly see the condition of the rotors, and how much of the rotor surface area the pads are actually supposed to cover.

Out of all the photos I have, here's the only one that showed a hint of rust:

This doesn't appear to be a widespread issue, but rather something that seems to be happening at either certain dealerships, storing facilities after they've left the factory, or perhaps sitting on transport trucks long enough to be exposed to humidity.

I don't see it as a panic issue, but rather something the dealerships should be responsible for, and something that's easily remedied.

 

[Wonza]

I suspect it’s due to storage conditions at BCA at Upper Heyford prior to delivery. Should have been picked up in PDI.

It is. The cars I think have been stored outside at BCA. Couple of weeks back they had delays with the delivery team. Turns out the pads and brake discs had corroded and stuck together on my car. So they changed the front discs and pads before delivery to me.

 

[Nick in Sydney]

Isn't the rust on the green Emira's rotors just normal surface rust from washing the car? Surface rust can appear on a rotor within a few minutes and just gets scrubbed away when you next drive the car. Some detailers take the car for a 30-second drive after washing, and hit the brakes a couple of times to prevent this.

You can also use a product such as Hyde's Rustopper.

 

[Concept24]

Uncoated cast iron can show rust within seconds of moisture contact. Fortunately, at least based upon my experience, that rust is quickly removed when the brakes are applied. I rarely have to wash any car because I keep them clean of dust with a California duster, and if needed, spray 3D waterless car wash, wipe (by dragging a microfiber towel over the beads), and then buff. Thus, the rotors rarely get wet unless I get caught in the rain.

 

[Wonza]

Isn't the rust on the green Emira's rotors just normal surface rust from washing the car? Surface rust can appear on a rotor within a few minutes and just gets scrubbed away when you next drive the car. Some detailers take the car for a 30-second drive after washing, and hit the brakes a couple of times to prevent this.

You can also use a product such as Hyde's Rustopper.

Yes on the green car but there are cars that were due to be delivered with pads stuck to the discs so they had to replaced and delay delivery. Some which escaped the PDI process have been delivered with seriously pitted discs at the base or cracked pads. Something to be aware of.

 

[Porter]

If BCA had simply sprayed the pads with brake cleaner spray before trying to move the cars, this likely wouldn't have happened. Brakleen usually releases weather-adhered pads in all but the absolutely worst cases.

 

[Hethel Merman]

Why do they go to BCA? Why not ship the cars straight to the despairing customers/dealers?

 

[TomE]

Because Lotus appointed BCA as their partner for logistics, distribution, PDI checks and handling of traded-in cars.

 

[dgrace]

One wonders what issues they ARE catching during PDI, given the severity of the ones that slip through.

 

[TomE]

There are a lot of cars held at BCA waiting fixes. I know of cars that completed build in Oct, Nov and Dec and are at BCA still not delivered to customers.

 

[Lotustoronto]

There are a lot of cars held at BCA waiting fixes. I know of cars that completed build in Oct, Nov and Dec and are at BCA still not delivered to customers.

Oct?! That's just crazy.

 

[Porter]

Likely sitting outside in the weather, too. I bet there are going to be paint problems. I don't know how much acid rain they get in the UK, but I suspect it's not zero.

 

[TomE]

We’ve already seen the brake problems, most likely due to extended storage outside in damp weather.

 

[sam041]

As someone who is going to store the car outside year round (garage not wide enough) this is a bit concerning.

Are wheel covers the answer? With the use of a dryer before covering if wet?

 

[Grumpy]

all discs rust if they get wet and are not used. If you are using it , shouldn't be a problem. Just don't leave it outside for months unused. I suspect this was caused by some cars being almost complete months ago, stored outside but waiting for parts.

 

[Porter]

As someone who is going to store the car outside year round (garage not wide enough) this is a bit concerning.

Are wheel covers the answer? With the use of a dryer before covering if wet?

Once the car is in use by an owner and the brakes have been fully bedded and repeatedly heat cycled, this will be less of an issue. One of the significant parts of the problem here is the brand new freshly installed brake linings sitting against each other in the wet, before they've been heat cycled together.

That being said, if I were going to store my Emira outdoors for extended periods, I would spray a little brake cleaner into the leading and trailing edges of each pad before I tried to move the car.

 

[jcyl]

New issue found … Auto Hold failure 500km in. Any ways of troubleshooting / resetting this manually? Picture attached.

 

[Mctaff]

How can a software feature need a service?! Weird!!

 

[Kimmax]

New issue found … Auto Hold failure 500km in. Any ways of troubleshooting / resetting this manually? Picture attached.

.... We got Auto-Hold?