Just been offered a C8……dilemma! Help me decide…

[GetawayDriving]

Wake up and study the C8 Z06! They took a Ferrari 458 V8 apart, re-engineered it and created a high revving - most powerful NA V8 ever produced. It's a mental car! 100k USD. Mindblowing. Want one so bad, but much harder to get than Emira.

Thats my whole point. It’s a pure performance machine. But the Z06 still isn’t going to engage like the Emira. No manual transmission, numb electric steering, 500lbs heavier, bigger car. I’m not saying the C8 isn’t impressive. I’m saying if you want a car that involves you and communicates with you beyond just the V8 note, the Emira will be more satisfying. Lotus has always prioritized that stuff over pure performance, and a certain type of driver really, really appreciates that. Including me.

It’s the same as Elise and Exige before. Those cars didn’t have the performance of the Z06’s of their day either, but they were the most rewarding drive you could have for the money. Still are.

 

[Magma]

106, same price as the Emira

I guess if you want a zero option 1LZ and wait who knows how long...

 

[Green]

yes retails at 108k USD. You can order one at the dealer....but as said...long wait!

It's the best prices supercar on the planet. Amazing value for money.

I think you are missing the point. ADM will put you closer to 200k. How many people get at retail? None I would guess.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/artic...-markups-hit-new-level-with-bonkers-100k-adm/

 

[lion shf]

I guess if you want a zero option 1LZ and wait who knows how long...

That’s what I’d get. Have you ever met a cheaper bastard than me

 

[lion shf]

I think you are missing the point. ADM will put you closer to 200k. How many people get at retail? None I would guess.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/artic...-markups-hit-new-level-with-bonkers-100k-adm/

There are 3 shops that sell at MSRP. Their lists are 5 years deep tho
Ciocca, mcmulkin and Criswell

 

[Magma]

That’s what I’d get. Have you ever met a cheaper bastard than me

Hahahaha! Well I don't consider anyone spending $100+k on a single vehicle "cheap"

 

[lion shf]

Hahahaha! Well I don't consider anyone spending $100+k on a single vehicle "cheap"

Cheap relatively

 

[Magma]

There are 3 shops that sell at MSRP. Their lists are 5 years deep tho
Ciocca, mcmulkin and Criswell

Does this really count?

 

[lion shf]

Does this really count?

It’s just sharing facts with my Emira bros is all

 

[morphious]

MSRP for the new Z06 is from $109,295 - $130,145, however they are flipping at anywhere from $218-$275k.

 

[lion shf]

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[lion shf]

And cheaper than Emira:

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[hagen111]

I think you are missing the point. ADM will put you closer to 200k. How many people get at retail? None I would guess.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/artic...-markups-hit-new-level-with-bonkers-100k-adm/

Do you know how long I am waiting for Emira already…..

I can wait for Z06, order one and also wait for 2 years, no problem. In fact have asked my friend in Miami to visit dealer to find if we can spec and order one.

In fact…Emira hardly fetches a premium over list…it shows how spectacular it (not) is.
The fact that Z06 results in 100k over list…should give us some understanding how iconic that car is!

 

[FederGigant]

Do you know how long I am waiting for Emira already…..

I can wait for Z06, order one and also wait for 2 years, no problem. In fact have asked my friend in Miami to visit dealer to find if we can spec and order one.

In fact…Emira hardly fetches a premium over list…it shows how spectacular it (not) is.
The fact that Z06 results in 100k over list…should give us some understanding how iconic that car is!

In my opinion it only shows how silly and obsessed with numbers people are.

 

[Cachaco131]

What's the big draw to uncommon cars? I don't get it. When I see a lot of a certain model of car I assume that's because its a great car. They wouldn't sell well if they sucked.

If I find and buy an amazing sports car I don't care if I'm the only one who owns it or if every house on my block has one. I've still got an amazing sports car.

I guess you are in the camp of buying Apple products, Samsung TVs, etc., but some of us "dare to be different" lol.

I don't know , I personally hate having the same as everyone else, even if good. I like the quirks of niche stuff and especially if they perform well.

 

[scoates]

What is the price difference in the UK between C8 and Emira?

I would be in the Emira camp, as getaway and morphious previously stated two different driving experience. Especially if it is a manual Emira vs C8.

I just did a quick search as I was interested as well, the C8 apparently starts at £87,320 on the road, my Emira was £82,752 on the road. So fully loaded Emira is about £5k cheaper than base C8 roughly.

 

[Nova]

What's the big draw to uncommon cars? I don't get it. When I see a lot of a certain model of car I assume that's because its a great car. They wouldn't sell well if they sucked.

If I find and buy an amazing sports car I don't care if I'm the only one who owns it or if every house on my block has one. I've still got an amazing sports car.

It's not simply being uncommon, but rather being uncommon *AND* desirable. Perceived value is a product of rarity and desirability. Something with low rarity will have low perceived value even if it is relatively desirable. This perceived value is something that people want to possess. It comes down to our deep-seated desire as social animals to be noticed and recognized by others, which is the root source of happiness. It is validating to own something that we know is highly desirable but only a small number of people have the opportunity to purchase it. Maybe it reflects one's success in life or some enviable combination of refined taste and impeccable timing. Whatever it is, we want those sensational squirts of dopamine whenever we look at the car we drive. Now, I don't doubt that there are people who transcend this human desire and are able to elevate their sense of being to a level where they don't give a flying flip to what others think of them. I am not that person. I am basic, neither rare nor desirable, and rotten to the core with the urge to own rare and desirable things.

 

[GetawayDriving]

I guess you are in the camp of buying Apple products, Samsung TVs, etc., but some of us "dare to be different" lol.

I don't know , I personally hate having the same as everyone else, even if good. I like the quirks of niche stuff and especially if they perform well.

To be fair, Apple products also subscribe to simplify and add lightness.

 

[lion shf]

I guess you are in the camp of buying Apple products, Samsung TVs, etc., but some of us "dare to be different" lol.

I don't know , I personally hate having the same as everyone else, even if good. I like the quirks of niche stuff and especially if they perform well.

Hey I’m not going to start bashing the Emira cause I’m bitter I can’t afford it but you all have to be nicer to the c8, especially if I buy one. Thx

 

[Pegasi]

It's not simply being uncommon, but rather being uncommon *AND* desirable. Perceived value is a product of rarity and desirability. Something with low rarity will have low perceived value even if it is relatively desirable. This perceived value is something that people want to possess. It comes down to our deep-seated desire as social animals to be noticed and recognized by others, which is the root source of happiness. It is validating to own something that we know is highly desirable but only a small number of people have the opportunity to purchase it. Maybe it reflects one's success in life or some enviable combination of refined taste and impeccable timing. Whatever it is, we want those sensational squirts of dopamine whenever we look at the car we drive. Now, I don't doubt that there are people who transcend this human desire and are able to elevate their sense of being to a level where they don't give a flying flip to what others think of them. I am not that person. I am basic, neither rare nor desirable, and rotten to the core with the urge to own rare and desirable things.

It even stems from when we were kids playing with hot wheel cars. You always wanted to be the one to show up with a new hot wheel that no one else had.