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Emira - Lotus Cars Official Website

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[andrew6382]

The ones on the configurator are exactly the same as they have always been. They haven’t actually updated the interior configurator just added the outside views. So they won’t look any different. But the seats in the factory are a lot different to the ones on the show car. Deeper with harder more built up sides. Both on the seat and the back. The whole presence of them is better. It’s not a carbon back but has the feel of one. Out of everything I saw at the factory that was the most reassuring thing. And there were many.

I second that..... think we all were impressed with them..... they had a few.... 60 if not more perhaps ?

 

[p.rob]

That I can't wait to see, the seats were a concern from the beggining for me.

 

[4GIV8M3]

From the Recaros to the Sparcos that were in the Evora I think it's safe to say Lotus is usually on top of their seat game and Emira will be no different. If anything probably the nicest ones ever, minus the carbon

 

[andrew6382]

From the Recaros to the Sparcos that were in the Evora I think it's safe to say Lotus is usually on top of their seat game and Emira will be no different. If anything probably the nicest ones ever, minus the carbon

Am sure we may have some carbon ad-ons.....

 

[Porter]

From the Recaros to the Sparcos that were in the Evora I think it's safe to say Lotus is usually on top of their seat game and Emira will be no different. If anything probably the nicest ones ever, minus the carbon

Well, that begs the question of where the odd "pre-production" seats in the Emira prototype cars came from, and why they were so poorly suited to the car. I don't know why they wouldn't have temporarily used one of the existing Evora seat options and simply had their upholstery shop do a custom leather surface with appropriate design cues.

 

[andrew6382]

Well, that begs the question of where the odd "pre-production" seats in the Emira prototype cars came from, and why they were so poorly suited to the car. I don't know why they wouldn't have temporarily used one of the existing Evora seat options and simply had their upholstery shop do a custom leather surface with appropriate design cues.

Perhaps they ran out of time..... it was made clear to me both times I saw the road show car, the seats are not the ones for production..... They have spent a lot of time trying to get it right..... one of the reasons they have not ok the new one, we got told........ was they are not happy with the stitching..... i think also they had help from anoth company in the family

 

[TomE]

Lotus don't have an in-house trim shop anymore. The seats are bought it, so they've been working with their suppliers (for the seat skeleton and the trimming) to get it right. I guess that also lengthens the cycle time for mock ups and iterations.

The show car was built as a one off by a specialist company rather than Lotus. The seat was a prototype from the selected supplier.

In hindsight they must be kicking themselves about taking the roadshow car out on tour with non-final seats, given the number of questions and concerns it has generated.

The new version seats looked a lot better and it was a shame we weren't allowed to sit on any of them when visiting the factory. They all had paperwork attached listing the feedback from QA and design teams. A lot of attention to detail.

Didn't someone spot one of the styling mockups had a Porsche seat? Was it in the Harry's Garage video? It wouldn't be a surprise to see them using that as a reference.

 

[4GIV8M3]

@andrew6382 I think it would be cool to see them do seats like BMW does in the new M3/M4. Those things are amazing and really put the car's interior on another level.

 

[Autopsy]

Lotus don't have an in-house trim shop anymore. The seats are bought it, so they've been working with their suppliers (for the seat skeleton and the trimming) to get it right. I guess that also lengthens the cycle time for mock ups and iterations.

The show car was built as a one off by a specialist company rather than Lotus. The seat was a prototype from the selected supplier.

In hindsight they must be kicking themselves about taking the roadshow car out on tour with non-final seats, given the number of questions and concerns it has generated.

The new version seats looked a lot better and it was a shame we weren't allowed to sit on any of them when visiting the factory. They all had paperwork attached listing the feedback from QA and design teams. A lot of attention to detail.

Didn't someone spot one of the styling mockups had a Porsche seat? Was it in the Harry's Garage video? It wouldn't be a surprise to see them using that as a reference.

Thanks as always for useful info & insights!

My only concern is, due to my height and long torso, I don't feel right looking out even in the Evora GT410’s bucket seat. I was literally looking straight at the sun visor. So I guess regardless of how awesome Emira‘s production seat would be I‘ll have to change into something more extreme.

 

[p.rob]

@andrew6382 I think it would be cool to see them do seats like BMW does in the new M3/M4. Those things are amazing and really put the car's interior on another level.

Carbon fiber bucket seats really make the car feel special. I'm sure there will be some of these in future iterations.

Love the seats in my GT4, instant sens of occasion as soon as you look through the window.

The ones in the new BMWs are great as well, hope they are going to be offered on the new M2

 

[andrew6382]

@andrew6382 I think it would be cool to see them do seats like BMW does in the new M3/M4. Those things are amazing and really put the car's interior on another level.

The M seats are nice....dont know if they would look right in the Emira ?

 

[First Lotus]

Carbon fiber bucket seats really make the car feel special. I'm sure there will be some of these in future iterations.

Love the seats in my GT4, instant sens of occasion as soon as you look through the window.

The ones in the new BMWs are great as well, hope they are going to be offered on the new M2

They look great. But pretty hardcore for the Emira which is meant to also be able to operate as a daily? I'd expect/hope for slightly more forgiving than GT4 seats.

 

[p.rob]

They look great. But pretty hardcore for the Emira which is meant to also be able to operate as a daily? I'd expect/hope for slightly more forgiving than GT4 seats.

well even in the GT4 and GT3 they are an option. So you can opt for the seat you want based on the use you are making of the car.

 

[Porter]

Lotus don't have an in-house trim shop anymore. The seats are bought it, so they've been working with their suppliers (for the seat skeleton and the trimming) to get it right. I guess that also lengthens the cycle time for mock ups and iterations.

Right, but they did at the time that these cars were built. I'm just saying, they could have used a better "stand-in" seat than what they ended up bolting in the car.

 

[TomE]

Good point, although the Elise/Exige/Evora trimmers weren't involved on Emira they could've done the show car. I know the whole Emira team were up against it to be ready for Goodwood and the seat looks to have been a compromise that's not panned out well. At least they didn't fit the Porsche ones from the cockpit model!

I'm surprised, given the questions and feedback, they haven't updated the blue show car to a more recent iteration of the seat. It seems like an easy thing to do to head off further concerns.

 

[andrew6382]

Good point, although the Elise/Exige/Evora trimmers weren't involved on Emira they could've done the show car. I know the whole Emira team were up against it to be ready for Goodwood and the seat looks to have been a compromise that's not panned out well. At least they didn't fit the Porsche ones from the cockpit model!

I'm surprised, given the questions and feedback, they haven't updated the blue show car to a more recent iteration of the seat. It seems like an easy thing to do to head off further concerns.

Yes... would be nice to see the updated seats. On our day there I mentioned to Scott that perhaps a video could be done, showing the new seat, and its evolution. As it had been something many had asked about

May be they are still not happy with it.... the number of EV units they had, clear some effort was bing put into get it right.

But am with you.... even if its not 100% finished item perhaps..... show it ...... so others can see the direction they are going ?

 

[digilotus]

Yes... would be nice to see the updated seats. On our day there I mentioned to Scott that perhaps a video could be done, showing the new seat, and its evolution. As it had been something many had asked about

May be they are still not happy with it.... the number of EV units they had, clear some effort was bing put into get it right.

But am with you.... even if its not 100% finished item perhaps..... show it ...... so others can see the direction they are going ?

I think that would be great! But we also need to be realistic. Lotus is not an open source development car company. No other car manufacturer makes the internal development process visible to the customer.

Would Porsche, Aston, Jaguar, Maserati etc do this? Don’t think so… thus it’s unreasonable for us to expect that Lotus would.

 

[andrew6382]

I think that would be great! But we also need to be realistic. Lotus is not an open source development car company. No other car manufacturer makes the internal development process visible to the customer.

Would Porsche, Aston, Jaguar, Maserati etc do this? Don’t think so… this it’s unreasonable for us to expect that Lotus would.

True..... but sharing how the seat evoluved .... not protect info.... Scott did think it was a good idea. TV and Youtube is full of how it was.... plenty about how the car are built, how they make it from the drawing board/pc.... to build

 

[digilotus]

True..... but sharing how the seat evoluved .... not protect info.... Scott did think it was a good idea. TV and Youtube is full of how it was.... plenty about how the car are built, how they make it from the drawing board/pc.... to build

I think that would be awesome… a bit like some of the internal design sketches being shared by Russell Carr in Harry’s video.

Given they’re about to start manufacturing Emiras in a couple of weeks, they’re really past the point of no return here. I’d say such sharing would be done after the production release.

 

[freefall_junkie]

Good point, although the Elise/Exige/Evora trimmers weren't involved on Emira they could've done the show car. I know the whole Emira team were up against it to be ready for Goodwood and the seat looks to have been a compromise that's not panned out well. At least they didn't fit the Porsche ones from the cockpit model!

I'm surprised, given the questions and feedback, they haven't updated the blue show car to a more recent iteration of the seat. It seems like an easy thing to do to head off further concerns.

I would really like to see the production seat too, or better still have a chance to sit in it. For me it is going to need to go a lot lower and have much better side bolstering than the show car. I am very, very picky about my driving position (maybe an age thing ), so I really hope Lotus don't get something so basic wrong on the prod car.