New Config Live!

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New Config is Live!!

Emira - Lotus Cars Official Website

www.lotuscars.com

 

[klho001]

I dont know why but after seeing the vid option on the configurator, my 1st choice is now yellow

 

[digilotus]

For those seeing different colours on different devices, here's a few tips:

* On iOS / Mac devices - turn off "True Tone" and "Night Shift". Both of these adjust the white balance in different lighting conditions. Generally they tend to cut some of the blue making the picture look warmer (or more reddish/brownish).

* Check your monitor colour temperature or colour profile setting. Avoid "Warm" or "Cool" or "ComfortView" (or similar). Aim to leave on "Standard" colour mode at least while you're looking at the Configurator colour samples. (E.g. Looking at Nimbus whilst on "Cool" monitor colour temperature will make it look like a bright silver and not the cream/bronze tinted silver that it actually is.)

* On Android devices, leave the Display colour setting to "Natural". Avoid "Boosted" or "Vivid" or similar.

With nuanced colours like Magma, you'll get a brownish tint when using Night Shift (or similar low-light, night modes) or an over-saturated brighter red when using colour boosting (such as Android Vivid)! I can totally understand why this is driving people crazy!

 

[TomE]

For those seeing different colours on different devices, here's a few tips:

* On iOS / Mac devices - turn off "True Tone" and "Night Shift". Both of these adjust the white balance in different lighting conditions. Generally they tend to cut some of the blue making the picture look warmer (or more reddish/brownish).

* Check your monitor colour temperature or colour profile setting. Avoid "Warm" or "Cool" or "ComfortView" (or similar). Aim to leave on "Standard" colour mode at least while you're looking at the Configurator colour samples. (E.g. Looking at Nimbus whilst on "Cool" monitor colour temperature will make it look like a bright silver and not the cream/bronze tinted silver that it actually is.)

* On Android devices, leave the Display colour setting to "Natural". Avoid "Boosted" or "Vivid" or similar.

With nuanced colours like Magma, you'll get a brownish tint when using Night Shift (or similar low-light, night modes) or an over-saturated brighter red when using colour boosting (such as Android Vivid)! I can totally understand why this is driving people crazy!

Brilliant! Please publish this widely on the Emira Facebook groups, it was getting a bit frothy!

 

[TXEMIRA]

New Configurator came out on a Monday.

This will be the first weekend with it up and running.

Normally we get 52 weekends a year so this is just 2% of our weekends gone right? 98% is still good right?

 

[Porter]

Yes, Eibach is probably the biggest company in aftermarket suspension. They make springs and swaybars for many oem sportscars as well. Same as Bilstein.. Very reputable German strut manufacturer. Arguably the best in the business.

100% agreed. Eibach is one of the most respected spring winding manufacturers in the industry. They have a ton of process expertise and make an incredibly consistent, reliable product. There's a reason why so many race teams use them exclusively as a spring supplier, even in very high end applications.

Bilstein is one of the best mass-production shock/damper manufacturers in the world, in terms of engineering quality at scale. There are definitely higher-end, more specialized manufacturers (Ohlins, MCS, Penske, Moton, JRZ, Nitron, AST, etc etc ad nauseum) but they are all either far too expensive or too low volume, and likely would never be able to fully supply an OEM with product in a reliable-enough fashion to guarantee production schedules. Also as performance specialty companies most do not have anywhere near the requisite experience in engineering for real-world operational reliability. Ohlins is the closest, but they are typically cost-prohibitive. There's an OEM volume tier of vendors (Sachs, KYB, Boge, Tokico, Showa, etc) that could hit the price point and reliability need, but most aren't as well known specifically for performance products, or if they are they lack refinement. The only supplier that's even close to the quality + performance + volume proposition for the damper itself is probably Koni, and they don't have the breadth of OE-style fitment engineering, rapid prototyping, and narrow-tolerance production manufacturing expertise that Bilstein brings to the table. They seem like a no-brainer as a supplier choice to me.

 

[Lankan]

100% agreed. Eibach is one of the most respected spring winding manufacturers in the industry. They have a ton of process expertise and make an incredibly consistent, reliable product. There's a reason why so many race teams use them exclusively as a spring supplier, even in very high end applications.

Bilstein is one of the best mass-production shock/damper manufacturers in the world, in terms of engineering quality at scale. There are definitely higher-end, more specialized manufacturers (Ohlins, MCS, Penske, Moton, JRZ, Nitron, AST, etc etc ad nauseum) but they are all either far too expensive or too low volume, and likely would never be able to fully supply an OEM with product in a reliable-enough fashion to guarantee production schedules. Also as performance specialty companies most do not have anywhere near the requisite experience in engineering for real-world operational reliability. Ohlins is the closest, but they are typically cost-prohibitive. There's an OEM volume tier of vendors (Sachs, KYB, Boge, Tokico, Showa, etc) that could hit the price point and reliability need, but most aren't as well known specifically for performance products, or if they are they lack refinement. The only supplier that's even close to the quality + performance + volume proposition for the damper itself is probably Koni, and they don't have the breadth of OE-style fitment engineering, rapid prototyping, and narrow-tolerance production manufacturing expertise that Bilstein brings to the table. They seem like a no-brainer as a supplier choice to me.

Ohlins and Nitron are OEM suppliers to Lotus, both as standard fitment and factory installed options.

I haven't had a car with Nitrons, but the RGB has 2-way adjustable Ohlins, and they are excellent. In addition, KW too produces cost-effective, reliable dampers (have 2-way adjustable coilovers on another car - 8 years of summer use, and counting).

The worst dampers I have experienced were the Sachs items in road-going 993s - dreadful! Back in the day everyone 'upgraded' to Bilstein PSS9s, and the motorsport 911's too had Bilsteins as standard.

 

[FederGigant]

KW is doing an outstanding job on there dampers. There are a few different option from normal dampers to coilovers that you can adjust in every thinkable way, and they also custom fit them to a lot of cars and do excessive testing on each of them. You often get to see them on GT Porsches here in Germany to make them ride even better than with standard Setup and of course to make them look better. They also supply BMW for the new M4 GT3, which is the craziest GT3 car I've ever seen.

 

[eclat2emira]

KW is doing an outstanding job on there dampers. There are a few different option from normal dampers to coilovers that you can adjust in every thinkable way, and they also custom fit them to a lot of cars and do excessive testing on each of them. You often get to see them on GT Porsches here in Germany to make them ride even better than with standard Setup and of course to make them look better. They also supply BMW for the new M4 GT3, which is the craziest GT3 car I've ever seen.

I am in the process of having KW V3s fitted to my 996 C4S as part of a full suspension refresh - looking forward to the transformation, reviews are excellent!

 

[TXEMIRA]

I was just reminded that this is a car.

Yes. A car. A vehicle.

Someone else designed it and built it (or is building it) and I am buying it from them.

I may be proud of my purchase decision and even my unique taste & configuration, but I can’t possibly be proud to the degree of achievement related to the vehicle.

I may be proud of my ability to make the purchase and/or the decisions, but when it comes right down to it, the pride of ownership pales in comparison to the pride of invention.

Never do I want to be the guy who responds to the “nice car” comment with the attitude and vigor that I invented the thing. Yeah, I configured it, and I bought it, but that compliment will belong to Lotus 100%.

It’s a car. #ForTheDrivers

 

[2Lotus]

Well said!

What the Lotus team is doing with these two new cars is amazing. Owning two Lotus vehicles I understand the DNA of these cars. We all want more information and the car tomorrow. I have first hand seen how Geely has transformed Volvo into a top five luxury car with a very bright future. I know the same is in front of Lotus as a company. I know this company will not let Lotus fail! I think we are all going the be very happy we have placed orders for this car!

I would also like to thank everybody for participating in this forum. I look forward every morning to log onto this site and see what new information is available.

 

[TomE]

Realtime, the company that produced the new configurator, have released a rather cool version of the video mode with colours and other configurable items changing in, err, realtime

Lotus: Emira Configurator - REALTIME

www.realtimeuk.com

 

[andrew6382]

Realtime, the company that produced the new configurator, have released a rather cool version of the video mode with colours and other configurable items changing in, err, realtime

Lotus: Emira Configurator - REALTIME

www.realtimeuk.com

Better than mine.... got to ask whos came out first, may be mine gave them the idea.... lol

 

[andrew6382]

Better than mine.... got to ask whos came out first, may be mine gave them the idea.... lol

Would seem there came out a day ago, mine 3 days ago..... just saying hehe there is much better and I had been working on something like....

 

[eriegz]

Damn, I didn't realize how much more active this forum was compared to the "Emira" section of LotusTalk! I love seeing the enthusiasm here.

 

[TomE]

Damn, I didn't realize how much more active this forum was compared to the "Emira" section of LotusTalk! I love seeing the enthusiasm here.

Welcome to the party!

 

[jamesbxxx]

Damn, I didn't realize how much more active this forum was compared to the "Emira" section of LotusTalk! I love seeing the enthusiasm here.

This is definitely the go-to forum

 

[Daz]

 

[andrew6382]

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Come on guys.... we all showing our age now...... Its 2022...... its the EMIRA-Verse

 

[Porter]

Ohlins and Nitron are OEM suppliers to Lotus, both as standard fitment and factory installed options.

I haven't had a car with Nitrons, but the RGB has 2-way adjustable Ohlins, and they are excellent. In addition, KW too produces cost-effective, reliable dampers (have 2-way adjustable coilovers on another car - 8 years of summer use, and counting).

The worst dampers I have experienced were the Sachs items in road-going 993s - dreadful! Back in the day everyone 'upgraded' to Bilstein PSS9s, and the motorsport 911's too had Bilsteins as standard.

Oh absolutely, I'm not saying that they don't supply major OEMs. I'm saying they don't do so in large volume. When Ohlins or Nitron are fitted on a factory vehicle it's almost always a low-volume special edition or special model. They just don't have the manufacturing capacity for really large production runs. Emira being 5k+ vehicles a year for multiple years (and possibly more than 5k/yr) would be difficult for those companies to fulfill I think. That's a minimum of 20k individual damper units a year to meet the base production plan, plus spares for global parts distribution, and if Lotus added a 2nd shift at any point it would be way out of the scale that specialist suspension manufacturers could do without totally reinventing how they operate. Ohlins as a brand isn't thought of as "small" but they only have 320 employees across all divisions in all countries.

The biggest volume jobs Ohlins has ever done is for Volvo on their (few) performance models and on their Polestar brand vehicles optioned with Performance Pack, and I suspect they may have subcontracted some portion of the physical manufacturing because of the scale required. Their relationship with Tenneco (which is now a majority shareholder) likely helps there. I think that's still fewer vehicles per year than Lotus is planning for the Emira production runs.

Listen, I would LOVE if there was a factory Ohlins option or a Nitron option for the Emira. I just don't think it could ever be workable from a supply perspective for the default production configuration. Nor would it meet the cost targets that keep this car even remotely "affordable". Bilstein works just fine for me if the damper controls the spring in the way that Gavan Kershaw thinks it should.

 

[Ubergreg]

New configurator is great, but looks like they're not tipping their hand when it comes to any further development with the seats. Those that went to Hethel referenced seats being much more promising then the quite pedestrian versions shared thus far. Can anyone compare what they were seeing to what still look like relatively "pedestrian" seats on the configurator site?

The ones on the configurator are exactly the same as they have always been. They haven’t actually updated the interior configurator just added the outside views. So they won’t look any different. But the seats in the factory are a lot different to the ones on the show car. Deeper with harder more built up sides. Both on the seat and the back. The whole presence of them is better. It’s not a carbon back but has the feel of one. Out of everything I saw at the factory that was the most reassuring thing. And there were many.