The inevitable faster Emira

[Jinba ittai]

If I want to go really fast - I'll take my R1 out for a spin (if you don't know what an R1 is spoiler alert it's got half as many wheels).

 

[Man.v.Cars]

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Taken off bikes twice, both the fault of car drivers not looking.

 

[Foxy87]

Doesnt matter who‘s fault it is. When your dead your dead…

 

[Jinba ittai]

Yeah the car drivers are the issue. I have a dirt bike I ride off road and I trust myself to stay safe. Being on road with a motorcycle means trusting everyone else.

 

[EZcheezy]

I was considering buying a motorcycle the past few months but reading up on statistics and how incredibly angry my mom was at me gave me pause. unlikely I will now

 

[Vampyre]

My car also hates 1st to 2nd at high RPM. Makes launching terrible.

neither my Emira or Evora GT has this problem, what is the mileage of your Emira, was the break in done correctly?

 

[Six Speed Stephen]

neither my Emira or Evora GT has this problem, what is the mileage of your Emira, was the break in done correctly?

Break in was done correctly. Both emira I owned had this issue, others above have reported the same

it’s only at high rpm shifting from first to second not normal driving

 

[cyanmauve]

Break in done correctly here.

Manual transmission bona fides:
Only daily driven manual transmission. Ever. No automatics.

Personal car history- 2nd owner high mileage 1991 Taurus SHO as 1st car, owned since new 2006 Mustang GT, and now 2024 Emira.

My Mustang, which rolled over 140k miles literally yesterday, is still on its original clutch despite many, ahem, “spirited” launches in the past. You try not doing that when you’re 21 and have that car brand new!

Anyway, not that having driven a standard that long means anything, other than to say I have driven those and many other high(er) performance manual transmission cars for a long time, and at least now have a good sense of “mechanical sympathy”. Mostly because now I really really don’t want to pay for a clutch job on my Emira!

 

[Speedy Emira]

Break in was done correctly. Both emira I owned had this issue, others above have reported the same

it’s only at high rpm shifting from first to second not normal driving

This has been commented on a few times on car reviews that the gearbox doesn't like first to second high rpm changes. Mine also had that issue. Apparently the gearbox didn't come from a high revving sporty car. I wonder if the gear ratio change kit JUBU sell would make a difference?

 

[virtualmacho]

Some early discussion about the Aisin BG6 gearbox here ==> https://www.emiraforum.com/threads/who-manufactures-emiras-manual-transmission.2542/

 

[nelly111s]

For those with 1st - 2nd shift problems, see if you can get the gear linkage looked at. A small tweak can make a difference. I’ve had mine done, as with my Elise previously and the result is much better both 1-2 and going into reverse.

 

[Six Speed Stephen]

For those with 1st - 2nd shift problems, see if you can get the gear linkage looked at. A small tweak can make a difference. I’ve had mine done, as with my Elise previously and the result is much better both 1-2 and going into reverse.

What exactly do I say to the tech when I ask him to make a tweak?

 

[Tteape0]

For those with 1st - 2nd shift problems, see if you can get the gear linkage looked at. A small tweak can make a difference. I’ve had mine done, as with my Elise previously and the result is much better both 1-2 and going into reverse.

It is the same issue in the automatics too only on 1st to 2nd. Not an issue on the DCT on the 2L though. I really think it’s an issue of the transmissions they chose on the V6s

 

[Nova]

What exactly do I say to the tech when I ask him to make a tweak?

There is a shift plate adjustment.

DIY: V6 Manual 1st, 2nd & Reverse Adjustment - Hard To Get Into Gear

Ever since I picked up my car I've found 1st and 2nd pretty difficult to get into, especially 1st, I'd often have to get into 2nd and then get into 1st making taking off from a stoplight embarrassingly annoying. This also makes downshifting from 3rd into 2nd difficult as well. If this sounds...

www.emiraforum.com

 

[Six Speed Stephen]

There is a shift plate adjustment.

DIY: V6 Manual 1st, 2nd & Reverse Adjustment - Hard To Get Into Gear

Ever since I picked up my car I've found 1st and 2nd pretty difficult to get into, especially 1st, I'd often have to get into 2nd and then get into 1st making taking off from a stoplight embarrassingly annoying. This also makes downshifting from 3rd into 2nd difficult as well. If this sounds...

www.emiraforum.com

This is a slightly different issue.

 

[Strmshdow84]

It is the same issue in the automatics too only on 1st to 2nd. Not an issue on the DCT on the 2L though. I really think it’s an issue of the transmissions they chose on the V6s

Yeah, from all the info I read, it's a repurposed diesel transmission. So, while the Emira has probably the best iteration, it's still not an ideal transmission for a sports vehicle. Personally I don't (I do, it's money & development times) see why they didn't try to repurpose the AMG dct to the V6 manual, would've been a great upgrade.

 

[Tomwa]

Great upgrade for anyone who wanted an automatic.

I'm not sure how many auto V6's they sold, I guess it is possible they would have sold more auto-V6's if DCT was an option. Problem with the DCT route is that it isn't as simple as just a bellhousing adapter. You have to get the DCT controller on the same page as the engine control unit and based on what we've see with the i4 Subframe, getting the DCT to fit with the V6 may have been a very big challenge. They already had those auto-units for the Emira it makes sense not to spend those development dollars especially on an engine platform that won't be as long lived or sell as many units as the i4. (In China at least)

 

[Strmshdow84]

Great upgrade for anyone who wanted an automatic.

I'm not sure how many auto V6's they sold, I guess it is possible they would have sold more auto-V6's if DCT was an option. Problem with the DCT route is that it isn't as simple as just a bellhousing adapter. You have to get the DCT controller on the same page as the engine control unit and based on what we've see with the i4 Subframe, getting the DCT to fit with the V6 may have been a very big challenge. They already had those auto-units for the Emira it makes sense not to spend those development dollars especially on an engine platform that won't be as long lived or sell as many units as the i4. (In China at least)

I don't think that is true though.

1. That's essentially what they did for the current auto/manual.
2. DCT's have been attached to the 2GR on the aftermarket side (JUBU's VW DCT conversion).
3. It's a lot simpler when you're working with the manufacturer, especially considering they already have mounts and axles.

I get it's easier said then done, but If they can do it on the aftermarket side from scratch, it definitely can be done on Lotus side.