Any way to fix the brake dust?

[luciddaydream]

Hi there
The brake dust on these cars is pretty nuts.
Has anyone come up with a solution to this?

Either pads or some sort of treatment I can put on the wheels?
Thanks a ton

 

[Tomwa]

For those who really hate the brake dust just be aware, as I stated earlier, it not all from the brake pads while I suspected the OE rotors might contain higher than normal carbon to achieve such an annoyed result.

You can replace the pad and see the difference first; or along with the rotor at the same time for an optimal result.

Its definitely good to have support from folks. I am sure to think of you for rotors when I am looking at some track activity. Might be good to have a dedicated set of rotors and pads.

Thank you~!

 

[Speedy Emira]

Hi Warren are the discs carbon ceramic or carbon carbon?

 

[Warren-RB]

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[Porter]

No you have total flexibility.
Our brake components are designed from a "system" stand point to maximize their potential while still fit their respective OE counterparts, so you can only replace OE pads, OE rotors, or both at your own path.

Just as a point of clarification, you're saying that your upgraded front pad in the different shape (as shown on the left of this photo) will fit the location of the original pad (pictured on the right) with the original caliper and rotors? So it's a factory compatible pad with increased pad area?

 

[Warren-RB]

Correct - The RB pad on the left is fully compatible and will fit Emira's OE caliper & rotor - Airen can vouch it for the fact that it actually fits better than OE pad & looks better too

 

[Porter]

Excellent. Is the rear set similar in area increase?

A link to these products on your website would be awesome, if you're able to share.

 

[Warren-RB]

Just for fun - Not Emira related is our brake development on the most talk about Cybertruck brake, the 410mm bbk fitment test was just performed today right after Emira's brake design was all cleared and released to production.

Cybertruck Brake Upgrade Options from RB Performance Brakes

Since they appear more beefier than OEM, will an 18” Wheel clear the Calipers?

www.cybertruckownersclub.com

And a reaction from TRX after they learned we are making brakes for CT.

Cybertruck brake upgrade options offered by RB

https://racingbrake.com/cybertruck/ Ship date @end of Sept /early Oct.

www.ram-trx.com

 

[Warren-RB]

Excellent. Is the rear set similar in area increase?

A link to these products on your website would be awesome, if you're able to share.

Rear is a lining based on D1346 for Nissan/Infiniti Sport 08-13 front.

• FMSI Lining # 8457
• Width (Depth): 54.6mm
• Thickness: 15.9mm (Made ro 16.8 per AP caliper specs).
• Length: 122.7mm

[PD8187.PD4345] RB Brake Pads (XT Series) for Iron Rotors : Lotus Emira Front & Rear

[PD8187.PD4345] RB Brake Pads (XT Series) for Iron Rotors : Lotus Emira Front & Rear

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[hugopanec]

Rear is a lining based on D1346 for Nissan/Infiniti Sport 08-13 front.

• FMSI Lining # 8457
• Width (Depth): 54.6mm
• Thickness: 15.9mm (Made ro 16.8 per AP caliper specs).
• Length: 122.7mm

[PD8187.PD4345] RB Brake Pads (XT Series) for Iron Rotors : Lotus Emira Front & Rear

[PD8187.PD4345] RB Brake Pads (XT Series) for Iron Rotors : Lotus Emira Front & Rear

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Those are the lower dust pads? Thanks

 

[Warren-RB]

Yes. In addition to very low dust & no squeaking, it provides you an excellent modulation - A very liner brake control (0-100%) so you will feel very well "connected" to your Emira.

 

[Warren-RB]

Q:

Any way to fix the brake dust?​

A:

[PD8187.PD4345] RB Brake Pads (XT Series) for Iron Rotors : Lotus Emira Front & Rear

[PD8187.PD4345] RB Brake Pads (XT Series) for Iron Rotors : Lotus Emira Front & Rear

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Pre-order now until 10/20/24: ETA 11/10/24​

Use Code "DIS-15": For a 15% Pre-order discount​

What are you waiting for?

 

[MikeR]

Hi there
The brake dust on these cars is pretty nuts.
Has anyone come up with a solution to this?

Either pads or some sort of treatment I can put on the wheels?
Thanks a ton

Help may soon be at hand from an unexpected source. Talking to the AP Racing guys at a UK industry event today I was told that 2025 environmental regulations require brake particulate reductions. The preferred solution appears to involve the introduction of ‘copper-free’ brake pad compounds which will meet the new standards with no reduction in performance for road-use. Look out for ‘copper-free’ OE and replacement pads from Brembo. I’ll be asking my Lotus dealer’s service department for these when it comes time for replacement.

Isn’t it refreshing when tighter regulations have helpful, unintended benefits? Some markets may already have received the low-particulate brake pads as OE - they’ll be the ones not complaining about brake dust.

 

[kitkat]

@MikeR

Some people in the US have the copper free Brembo pads and some have the normal DS2500 ones, it's a mixed bag.

I have the copper free Brembo pads and they still dust like crazy.

 

[MikeR]

@MikeR

Some people in the US have the copper free Brembo pads and some have the normal DS2500 ones, it's a mixed bag.

I have the copper free Brembo pads and they still dust like crazy.

But have you experienced the ‘normal’ alternative?

 

[kitkat]

But have you experienced the ‘normal’ alternative?

I've owned DS2500s in the past and it's the same amount of dusting.

 

[Warren-RB]

Copper restriction (<.05% by weight) on brake pad is a new law effective 2025 in the State of CA and WA. It's an environmental concern rather than the brake dust.

Copper & the Environment: Copper in Brake Pads

An informational sheet about copper in brake pads. CDA supports the conclusion of the Brake Pad Partnership and its plan to phase out copper from brake pads over a 15-year period.

www.copper.org

...The Brake Pad Partnership, a cooperative effort among representatives of the auto industry, brake pad manufacturers, environmental groups, stormwater regulatory agencies and coastal cities, found that brakes account for anywhere from 35 to 60 percent of copper in California's urban watershed run-off. In some urban watersheds, this added copper may be enough to cause water concentrations to exceed the state's water quality standard for copper. This led to the members' participation in determining a course of action that would address the issue. The Partnership decided that the fairest and most effective action would be to pursue legislation mandating the phased reduction of copper used in brakes....

In response RB pads have excluded the use of copper (copper free) since mid-2021

 

[Warren-RB]

Low Dust + Copper Free ACT.

If you can't put up the brake dust and desperately need a quick act, pre-order a set by Oct. 20 (closing in 2 days), get it quick and also enjoy a 15% discount (Code "DIS-15").

Our pads are "low dust" proven for 10+ years witnessed by a Mercedes user who approached us to make for his Mercedes based on his prior experience with BMW known to have notorious brake dust issue - Even today than any other car makes
Racing Brake makes me happy

Just to reassure you that you are buying a "proven" product, and no need to wait for others' feedback.

Even for a brand new & challenging design like the most talk about "Cybertruck", we are the first and the only (2 pc rotors) brake company offers a comprehensive brake upgrade including a BBK to deal with the weight (vehicle+payload/towing) and we predict the result from our knowing OE system and needed improvement.

Cybertruck Brake Upgrade Options from RB Performance Brakes

We are pleased to be a sponsor of this forum and here is what we can offer for Cybertruck. Standard Iron brake replacement & BBK: https://racingbrake.com/cybertruck/ Carbon ceramic brake BBK: https://racingbrake.com/tes-ct-ccb-410-390/ We expect to start shipping stock replacement rotors in...

www.cybertruckownersclub.com

ROTOR, PAD, BRAKE KIT - SELECT VEHICLE - TESLA - CYBERTRUCK - RB Performance Brakes

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Cybertruck is very unconventional so its brake.

This is a fitment test of our 6 pot HD caliper with 410mm rotor under OE 20" wheel.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/data/video/65/65429-85c3134a8eeca5c69686f493f8f1ee01.mp4

 

[kitkat]

Low Dust + Copper Free ACT.

If you can't put up the brake dust and desperately need a quick act, pre-order a set by Oct. 20 (closing in 2 days), get it quick and also enjoy a 15% discount (Code "DIS-15").

Our pads are "low dust" proven for 10+ years witnessed by a Mercedes user who approached us to make for his Mercedes based on his prior experience with BMW known to have notorious brake dust issue - Even today than any other car makes
Racing Brake makes me happy

Just to reassure you that you are buying a "proven" product, and no need to wait for others' feedback.

Even for a brand new & challenging design like the most talk about "Cybertruck", we are the first and the only (2 pc rotors) brake company offers a comprehensive brake upgrade including a BBK to deal with the weight (vehicle+payload/towing) and we predict the result from our knowing OE system and needed improvement.

Cybertruck Brake Upgrade Options from RB Performance Brakes

We are pleased to be a sponsor of this forum and here is what we can offer for Cybertruck. Standard Iron brake replacement & BBK: https://racingbrake.com/cybertruck/ Carbon ceramic brake BBK: https://racingbrake.com/tes-ct-ccb-410-390/ We expect to start shipping stock replacement rotors in...

www.cybertruckownersclub.com

ROTOR, PAD, BRAKE KIT - SELECT VEHICLE - TESLA - CYBERTRUCK - RB Performance Brakes

racingbrake.com

Cybertruck is very unconventional so its brake.

This is a fitment test of our 6 pot HD caliper with 410mm rotor under OE 20" wheel.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/data/video/65/65429-85c3134a8eeca5c69686f493f8f1ee01.mp4

How is initial bite and feel of the brake pad affected in your low dust pads? Most of the low dust pads from other brands I've tried had far less bite and less confidence inspiring.

 

[Warren-RB]

No compromise on initial bites or temperature effect (eg low friction at cold temp.).
Consistent friction with excellent modulation besides low dust.
Not just a marketing claim, search GTR forum and see how GTR enthusiasts like XT910.
https://www.gtrlife.com/search/167179/?q=xt910&t=post&c[child_nodes]=1&c[nodes][0]=180&o=relevance

Be reminded XT910 is a compound for street and spirited (Mountain, Canyon) driving - Not a track compound.

 

[Raab]

I’m going the two set route. EBC reds for daily use, EBC blues for track days. Just put the reds on. I’ll report back after I get some miles on them. These brakes are so easy to change, it’s not much trouble.