Anyone got an Emira with zero issues?!

[Lolub]

Last generation vantage. Problems were all wear and tear bar a paint problem on one door fixed under extended warranty 3 years into ownership

ok, has anyone ever had a British car that has had zero issues? Japanese ones don't count

I'll spare you my JLR horror stories (multiple vehicles)

Wow!
For me, I'm excited (for now lol) to say the Emira would be my first British / non-Japanese car! (I'm pretty brand loyal to Toyota and Honda lol.)

 

[JasonR]

Wow!
For me, I'm excited (for now lol) to say the Emira would be my first British / non-Japanese car! (I'm pretty brand loyal to Toyota and Honda lol.)

Ah similar to myself then! What Japanese cars have you had? And when’s your emira due?

 

[Lolub]

Ah similar to myself then! What Japanese cars have you had? And when’s your emira due?

Great @JasonR ! I'll send you a message to keep the thread on topic!

 

[JasonR]

Just checking back on this thread and those are some bad results can someone convince me not to cancel at this point

 

[ADC]

Just checking back on this thread and those are some bad results can someone convince me not to cancel at this point

Don't take this the wrong way, but... if you base your life decisions on an internet forum poll with 13 responses, you're doing it wrong

You really just need to ask yourself: do I like the idea of this car enough to possibly maybe have to put up with some early-adopter issues. If the answer is no, there is no shame in that. Just don't pull out in a panic thinking every single one off the line is going to be a lemon.

 

[FederGigant]

Just checking back on this thread and those are some bad results can someone convince me not to cancel at this point

To my eye, nearly all the problems that were reported on this forum were very minor things in terms of repairability. Changing the brakes is only a few hours of work, the possibly twisted belts are fixed with loosening one bolt, a loose hose will be stuck back to where it belongs in no time, software issues will be ironed out in the next few months and that's about it with faults that we know of. That's why I have no worries AT ALL about problems with my car. It's annoying if something doesn't work of course, but those are all obvious, easily fixable things.

On one of my cars, I already worked for tens of hours, changing part after part after part, and many times I thought now it's fixed and works fine just for the fault to return after half an hour. It's not diagnosable, nobody has a clue how to fix it, it's switching to limp mode on every drive, and you just can continue to renew parts, sensors, hoses, cables, etc. that might cause the issue and hope for the best. All that 10 years out of warranty of course with quite a pricy parts catalogue. Now that's nerve wrecking.

On the other hand, I went to my dealer a few days ago to see my actual car for the first time and collected my paperwork. That car screamed quality. Everything was built perfect to my eye, fit and finish is extremely impressive, the door and trunk closing sound screams expensive and I was really blown away at how well this thing is put together. Door opening and closing for example is even better than on a new 5 series, A6 or the like. Every detail felt lovely. If you are coming from a Ferrari or the like, it might not be something special, but I for example am used to VWs, a new MX-5, Tesla Model 3 Performance, Suzuki, and BMWs and Mercedes' up to 70k to 80k. My Tesla now just feels like a broken kids toy in terms of quality. My short Emira experience just broke "normal" cars for me and I feel very sorry for everybody that canceled and now misses out on owning such a special car.

 

[Mikey]

Invoice number

Cheers Sid. I didnt realise invoice number meant that. I'm car number 161.

 

[Mh59]

Question................ Has ANYONE, EVER in their LIFETIME, ever had any car from ANY brand with ZERO issues ???????

This is why the OP will never get the reply they are hoping for !!

No such thing exists...... Impossible

My Emira is my 4th new car in the last 10 years or so. It's the first that has had any problems - and I have had more than my fair share of them already.

The other 3 were owned for periods of time varying between 1 and 5 years with no issues on any of them that required returning to dealer. The Nissan had its first issue after 3.5 years, typically just outside of warranty!

I dont know the wider auto industry stats but given I saw 3 Emira's at my local dealer last month, none of which were for sale, suggests the ratio of problems compared to actual cars on the road exceeds what anyone would reasonably expect.

 

[Mh59]

Just checking back on this thread and those are some bad results can someone convince me not to cancel at this point

I wouldn't consider cancelling. The car is a stunner and there is nothing else that turns heads in its price point.

The issues myself and others are having should lead to less issues for those further along the chain. Hopefully.

Not ideal for my own experience but I am sure that's of little concern to anyone else if their car works as it should as a result!

 

[Porter]

My Emira is my 4th new car in the last 10 years or so. It's the first that has had any problems - and I have had more than my fair share of them already.

The other 3 were owned for periods of time varying between 1 and 5 years with no issues on any of them that required returning to dealer. The Nissan had its first issue after 3.5 years, typically just outside of warranty!

I dont know the wider auto industry stats but given I saw 3 Emira's at my local dealer last month, none of which were for sale, suggests the ratio of problems compared to actual cars on the road exceeds what anyone would reasonably expect.

Right but were any of your cars brand new models from low volume manufacturers? Or were they established production vehicles with known-sorted production processes from significant global brands?

Just curious because I do think the expectations should be different. Even a new model from a large scale, high-process-maturity manufacturer is typically expected to have some teething issues after first launch.

 

[Wonza]

Right but were any of your cars brand new models from low volume manufacturers? Or were they established production vehicles with known-sorted production processes from significant global brands?

Just curious because I do think the expectations should be different. Even a new model from a large scale, high-process-maturity manufacturer is typically expected to have some teething issues after first launch.

So should we really put up with an Emira which has flashing warning lights on the dashboard, vibrating steering wheel, sort out my tracker problem from day one. I’m stilling waiting for the car to be fixed and have to wait nearly a month for an appointment at my nearest dealer. Car still sat on the drive way.

If I would have known, I may of bought something else. I expect more, not perfection. At least something that bloody works. I know it’s minor and not end of the world but from day one, really.

 

[Porter]

So should we really put up with an Emira which has flashing warning lights on the dashboard, vibrating steering wheel, sort out my tracker problem from day one. I’m stilling waiting for the car to be fixed and have to wait nearly a month for an appointment at my nearest dealer. Car still sat on the drive way.

If I would have known, I may of bought something else. I expect more, not perfection. At least something that bloody works. I know it’s minor and not end of the world but from day one, really.

To a certain extent, yes. I would expect a lot of people to have some type of issue within the first 6 months of ownership if they are buying a product that's built in the first 3-4 months of *any* totally new automotive production scenario. Cars are incredibly complex technical products. There will inevitably be teething issues with the production process that result in undesired outcomes. Patience will be a prerequisite for any owner in this scenario who chooses to buy early like this. It's unfortunate, but a fact.

 

[Nick in Sydney]

So should we really put up with an Emira which has flashing warning lights on the dashboard, vibrating steering wheel, sort out my tracker problem from day one. I’m stilling waiting for the car to be fixed and have to wait nearly a month for an appointment at my nearest dealer. Car still sat on the drive way.

You certainly shouldn't be waiting a month for an appointment at a dealer, that's completely unacceptable for a brand-new car. They should have had it in the shop immediately.

 

[JasonR]

Don't take this the wrong way, but... if you base your life decisions on an internet forum poll with 13 responses, you're doing it wrong

You really just need to ask yourself: do I like the idea of this car enough to possibly maybe have to put up with some early-adopter issues. If the answer is no, there is no shame in that. Just don't pull out in a panic thinking every single one off the line is going to be a lemon.

I mean it’s more that every other post I see is someone having issues and not just here. That’s Facebook too. I’m in simply because it would be mad not to get a car about to raise in price straight after I get it but it’s sad the whole thing is tarnished

 

[Twin Cam]

I mean it’s more that every other post I see is someone having issues and not just here. That’s Facebook too. I’m in simply because it would be mad not to get a car about to raise in price straight after I get it but it’s sad the whole thing is tarnished

Problem is, how many more red flags can there be, no one wanted this car more than I did, now I don’t really care for it.
There is no right or wrong answer, you just have to make your own mind up

 

[Eagle7]

As a former British sports car owner (including a Lotus), being able to remedy niggling problems yourself is part and parcel of the ownership/driving experience. In return you get a driving experience and road presence like nothing else on the road. With today's cars, some of the problems are software so those will have to be dealt with by the company, but being able to download and update the software is a big advantage compared to the old days when physical parts had to be replaced.

I'm looking forward to owning an Emira, and I'm okay with small issues that I can remedy myself if they do happen to pop up. I'm hoping by the time U.S. cars are built and delivered though, most of those will have been sorted out.

 

[Twin Cam]

As a former British sports car owner (including a Lotus), being able to remedy niggling problems yourself is part and parcel of the ownership/driving experience. In return you get a driving experience and road presence like nothing else on the road. With today's cars, some of the problems are software so those will have to be dealt with by the company, but being able to download and update the software is a big advantage compared to the old days when physical parts had to be replaced.

I'm looking forward to owning an Emira, and I'm okay with small issues that I can remedy myself if they do happen to pop up. I'm hoping by the time U.S. cars are built and delivered though, most of those will have been sorted out.

Each to their own, but if I buy a new car at this price point I don’t expect to get the spanners out for at least three years

 

[Eagle7]

Each to their own, but if I buy a new car at this price point I don’t expect to get the spanners out for at least three years

Depends on what it is. You're in the U.K. so your expectation is different than for us an ocean away in the U.S. If I buy an American car, my expectation for having problems is different than if I buy a foreign car from Europe.

 

[Concept24]

To my eye, nearly all the problems that were reported on this forum were very minor things in terms of repairability. Changing the brakes is only a few hours of work, the possibly twisted belts are fixed with loosening one bolt, a loose hose will be stuck back to where it belongs in no time, software issues will be ironed out in the next few months and that's about it with faults that we know of. That's why I have no worries AT ALL about problems with my car. It's annoying if something doesn't work of course, but those are all obvious, easily fixable things.

On one of my cars, I already worked for tens of hours, changing part after part after part, and many times I thought now it's fixed and works fine just for the fault to return after half an hour. It's not diagnosable, nobody has a clue how to fix it, it's switching to limp mode on every drive, and you just can continue to renew parts, sensors, hoses, cables, etc. that might cause the issue and hope for the best. All that 10 years out of warranty of course with quite a pricy parts catalogue. Now that's nerve wrecking.

On the other hand, I went to my dealer a few days ago to see my actual car for the first time and collected my paperwork. That car screamed quality. Everything was built perfect to my eye, fit and finish is extremely impressive, the door and trunk closing sound screams expensive and I was really blown away at how well this thing is put together. Door opening and closing for example is even better than on a new 5 series, A6 or the like. Every detail felt lovely. If you are coming from a Ferrari or the like, it might not be something special, but I for example am used to VWs, a new MX-5, Tesla Model 3 Performance, Suzuki, and BMWs and Mercedes' up to 70k to 80k. My Tesla now just feels like a broken kids toy in terms of quality. My short Emira experience just broke "normal" cars for me and I feel very sorry for everybody that canceled and now misses out on owning such a special car.

My Tesla now just feels like a broken kids toy in terms of quality.

That's hilarious and so true! A Toyota master mechanic on youtube evaluated a Tesla Model Y for a week. He was impressed with the thermal systems and the giant screen's instant responses, but he also said that not only does the interior squeak and rattle during Chicago Winters, but the interior materials reminded him of GM cars during the 80s and 90s.
Yes, many Tesla owners are highly satisfied. Perhaps their previous vehicles were from the 80s and 90s.

 

[Evotion]

Had my Emira a day now - nothing wrong so far. Bloody brilliant car.