Anyone got an Emira with zero issues?!

[Magicman]

I had one of the very first caymans in the country, it spent its first 3 months disassembling its self until I eventually rejected it. Including 4wks sat waiting for a new gearbox.
The bar is set pretty low for me

 

[Silver Storm]

Wow!
For me, I'm excited (for now lol) to say the Emira would be my first British / non-Japanese car! (I'm pretty brand loyal to Toyota and Honda lol.)

I’m in similar boat as you. Came from BMW/MB, then went to Honda/Toyota/Acura/Lexus for dependability and worry free driving. Emira will be my first UK car too. Here’s hoping the Emira doesn’t disappoint. Could have went with LC500 with a V8!

 

[Lolub]

I agree with the several points made by those who have concerns about the Emira, sadly. I mean, it's been my dream car!

But I got to be honest here, I'm not a wealthy guy. I don't have a big house with a multicar garage with other fancy cars.

I have been saving up for this car. It will eat a significant chunk of my savings to have it. Don't judge me or my choices, but it was supposed to be a special gift to myself, a once in a lifetime gift.

It's not for attention, nor being seen, it's because I fell in love with the car when I saw it and test drove it. I have a strong emotional connection to cars and motorcycles. All that matters is that they're special to me, no one else.

At this price point, USD $110K, I don't have an option for the car to be problematic. I learned towork on my own cars, clutches, transmissions, brakes, etc. But not for brand new cars, no point or fun in that. And you need the right tools, which gets costly and time-consuming. And if the parts aren't available for the car nor the tools, you're stuck.

So for those of you wealthier who have the means to have a higher risk tolerance and more choices with your other expensive vehicles, then that's great. I'm happy for you and honestly a little jealous.

But for me, the cons seem to be outweighing the benefits, and my rational mind is trying it's hardest to convince my emotional heart to let the car go... And I think I'm just about to do that now.

Thank you for reading my post.

 

[Concept24]

Great commentary, Lolub. When is your Emira estimated to be available? My Emira is not estimated to be available until at least the third or fourth quarter of 2024. This is why I am persistently monitoring this and another Lotus forum. I am rooting for Lotus, because like you, I don't want the Emira to be a problematic project car except for possibly some enhancements. Keep the faith!

 

[morphious]

I agree with the several points made by those who have concerns about the Emira, sadly. I mean, it's been my dream car!

But I got to be honest here, I'm not a wealthy guy. I don't have a big house with a multicar garage with other fancy cars.

I have been saving up for this car. It will eat a significant chunk of my savings to have it. Don't judge me or my choices, but it was supposed to be a special gift to myself, a once in a lifetime gift.

It's not for attention, nor being seen, it's because I fell in love with the car when I saw it and test drove it. I have a strong emotional connection to cars and motorcycles. All that matters is that they're special to me, no one else.

At this price point, USD $110K, I don't have an option for the car to be problematic. I learned towork on my own cars, clutches, transmissions, brakes, etc. But not for brand new cars, no point or fun in that. And you need the right tools, which gets costly and time-consuming. And if the parts aren't available for the car nor the tools, you're stuck.

So for those of you wealthier who have the means to have a higher risk tolerance and more choices with your other expensive vehicles, then that's great. I'm happy for you and honestly a little jealous.

But for me, the cons seem to be outweighing the benefits, and my rational mind is trying it's hardest to convince my emotional heart to let the car go... And I think I'm just about to do that now.

Thank you for reading my post.

Lolub - I am like you, I fell in love with the car. When I was about 18 I got a 1990 1/2 Toyota MR2 Turbo, I loved that car. I have been looking to replace the feelings and emotions of that car for years and found it with the Emira. I have owned and looked at many cars over the years, this is the last of this type I will probably ever buy. I know there have been issues with launch, but also understand this is not a company that churns out 10-20k cars a day worldwide, but what sold me was that at the heart and soul of this car is a almost bullet proof engine and transmission that should be relatively inexpensive to maintain and operate and give many years of trouble free miles. Funny thing is, I traded that MR2 in for a brand new Ford Explorer, starting a family, and the day I drove it off the lot the power steering went out and I had to drive it back to the dealer without power steering and they gave me back my MR2 till the issue was resolved. Do what you feel is right, but I feel a lot of these quirks and issues will be resolved before they decide to ship these across the pond, even the big guys have issues with their car too.

 

[Ftype]

So should we really put up with an Emira which has flashing warning lights on the dashboard, vibrating steering wheel, sort out my tracker problem from day one. I’m stilling waiting for the car to be fixed and have to wait nearly a month for an appointment at my nearest dealer. Car still sat on the drive way.

If I would have known, I may of bought something else. I expect more, not perfection. At least something that bloody works. I know it’s minor and not end of the world but from day one, really.

i cancelled after reading about yours and others who have been disappointed by the quality and lack of support from Lotus. I am an hour and a half from the nearest dealer and didn’t want the hassle of going back and forth with problems. Even though I cancelled last week they still emailed me this week to say the price was going up £5000 after I had waited patiently for 18 months. I hope you get sorted.

 

[Ftype]

I agree with the several points made by those who have concerns about the Emira, sadly. I mean, it's been my dream car!

But I got to be honest here, I'm not a wealthy guy. I don't have a big house with a multicar garage with other fancy cars.

I have been saving up for this car. It will eat a significant chunk of my savings to have it. Don't judge me or my choices, but it was supposed to be a special gift to myself, a once in a lifetime gift.

It's not for attention, nor being seen, it's because I fell in love with the car when I saw it and test drove it. I have a strong emotional connection to cars and motorcycles. All that matters is that they're special to me, no one else.

At this price point, USD $110K, I don't have an option for the car to be problematic. I learned towork on my own cars, clutches, transmissions, brakes, etc. But not for brand new cars, no point or fun in that. And you need the right tools, which gets costly and time-consuming. And if the parts aren't available for the car nor the tools, you're stuck.

So for those of you wealthier who have the means to have a higher risk tolerance and more choices with your other expensive vehicles, then that's great. I'm happy for you and honestly a little jealous.

But for me, the cons seem to be outweighing the benefits, and my rational mind is trying it's hardest to convince my emotional heart to let the car go... And I think I'm just about to do that now.

Thank you for reading my post.

I did and have just ordered a Cayman 4.0 GTS and now sleep a lot better

 

[Wonza]

i cancelled after reading about yours and others who have been disappointed by the quality and lack of support from Lotus. I am an hour and a half from the nearest dealer and didn’t want the hassle of going back and forth with problems. Even though I cancelled last week they still emailed me this week to say the price was going up £5000 after I had waited patiently for 18 months. I hope you get sorted.

Sadly, without being negative. There are two types of customers here. Existing Lotus customers who are willing to put up with the teething problems of a small manufacturer and those who have purchased based on looks and how the Emira drives from a major manufacturers ie Porsche/BMW/whatever. I not ready to give up yet, hopefully get my troubles fixed in a timely manner and I’ll decide to stay or move on. Lotus have yet to release any software updates to the wipers. The basics of health and safety!!.

 

[Leonard]

Sadly, without being negative. There are two types of customers here. Existing Lotus customers who are willing to put up with the teething problems of a small manufacturer and those who have purchased based on looks and how the Emira drives from a major manufacturers ie Porsche/BMW/whatever. I not ready to give up yet, hopefully get my troubles fixed in a timely manner and I’ll decide to stay or move on. Lotus have yet to release any software updates to the wipers. The basics of health and safety!!.

And ionically New Lotus has pretty much given a two finger salute to the former and are trying to court the latter

 

[ICE]

I agree with the several points made by those who have concerns about the Emira, sadly. I mean, it's been my dream car!

But I got to be honest here, I'm not a wealthy guy. I don't have a big house with a multicar garage with other fancy cars.



But for me, the cons seem to be outweighing the benefits, and my rational mind is trying it's hardest to convince my emotional heart to let the car go... And I think I'm just about to do that now.

Thank you for reading my post.

Hello everyone!
New member here.

Lolub, I hear you and to augment what morphious said and at the peril of dating myself (yup, I could be considered an old .art), I was in the same situation in the early eighties as you are now when Mazda started selling the RX7.
A car company with little track record in the US and a car with a rotary engine!
So what I did was I bit my time and waited a few years and when they sent them out with a 13b engine, I had a fairly good idea what I was getting into and bought an '85 RX7 SE (fully optioned with larger 13b engine, kinda like the Emira FE).
Unlike many previous RX7s with 12a engines, I had no problems (Mazda had ironed out all the issues) and enjoyed it a lot although it had its own corks, nothing to do with the manufacturing or the fit & finish. The only problem I had with it was that I could not get to insure it with my chosen insurance company and had to go to a 'pool'. (No insurance company was willing to insure it due its high power to weight ratio. If I recall correctly, the RX7 SE and Ferrari 308 were the only cars that had to be insured via a pool in that year).
So my suggestion to you is if you don't have to buy a car right away, wait a couple of years and see what happens. Either way (ending up buying the Emira or not) you'll be happy.
I am doing the same again albeit I am passing on the opportunity of buying the First Edition.

 

[Concept24]

Hello everyone!
New member here.

Lolub, I hear you and to augment what morphious said and at the peril of dating myself (yup, I could be considered an old .art), I was in the same situation in the early eighties as you are now when Mazda started selling the RX7.
A car company with little track record in the US and a car with a rotary engine!
So what I did was I bit my time and waited a few years and when they sent them out with a 13b engine, I had a fairly good idea what I was getting into and bought an '85 RX7 SE (fully optioned with larger 13b engine, kinda like the Emira FE).
Unlike many previous RX7s with 12a engines, I had no problems (Mazda had ironed out all the issues) and enjoyed it a lot although it had its own corks, nothing to do with the manufacturing or the fit & finish. The only problem I had with it was that I could not get to insure it with my chosen insurance company and had to go to a 'pool'. (No insurance company was willing to insure it due its high power to weight ratio. If I recall correctly, the RX7 SE and Ferrari 308 were the only cars that had to be insured via a pool in that year).
So my suggestion to you is if you don't have to buy a car right away, wait a couple of years and see what happens. Either way (ending up buying the Emira or not) you'll be happy.
I am doing the same again albeit I am passing on the opportunity of buying the First Edition.

I'm fairly certain that Mazda started selling their rotary engine cars in the US 1972 or 1973. They did initially had rotor seal issues but by the time I bought a used 74 RX4 in 1976, many of the first RX engines were replaced. My RX4 was very reliable except for a failed fuel pump - a simple replacement from behind a panel in the trunk.
By the way, the GSL-SE had 135 HP and did 0-60 in 7.8 seconds. Its 1/4-mile time was 15.9 seconds at 86 MPH - hardly Ferrari-like by any stretch of the imagination.
A new owner let me take his for a ride. It was a very fun car.

 

[ICE]

I'm fairly certain that Mazda started selling their rotary engine cars in the US 1972 or 1973. They did initially had rotor seal issues but by the time I bought a used 74 RX4 in 1976, many of the first RX engines were replaced. My RX4 was very reliable except for a failed fuel pump - a simple replacement from behind a panel in the trunk.
By the way, the GSL-SE had 135 HP and did 0-60 in 7.8 seconds. Its 1/4-mile time was 15.9 seconds at 86 MPH - hardly Ferrari-like by any stretch of the imagination.
A new owner let me take his for a ride. It was a very fun car.

The RX7 was introduced in 1978 (Series 1) and was the first mass production sports car by Mazda.
It was nicknamed Poorsche due to its low price and (somewhat) resemblance to the 924.
Nobody dared to compare it to a Ferrari. The only common aspect of '85 RX7 SE (Series 3) and 308 were that both were in the last year of their production (Mazda replaced it with its 2nd Generation and Ferrari replaced the 308 with 328) and both were not (easily?) insurable in the US. ; -)

 

[Concept24]

The RX7 was introduced in 1978 (Series 1) and was the first mass production sports car by Mazda.
It was nicknamed Poorsche due to its low price and (somewhat) resemblance to the 924.
Nobody dared to compare it to a Ferrari. The only common aspect of '85 RX7 SE (Series 3) and 308 were that both were in the last year of their production (Mazda replaced it with its 2nd Generation and Ferrari replaced the 308 with 328) and both were not (easily?) insurable in the US. ; -)

Yes, but the early issues that Mazda had were typically not related to the fact that the RX7 was a sportscar. The drivetrain was very similar to the earlier RX models. My RX4 engine was a bit larger than the RX3 engine. I believe my RX4 put out 110 HP.

 

[Lolub]

I really appreciate all the supportive comments from everyone. Very kind of you! Thank you for understanding and relating to where I'm coming from!

 

[JasonR]

With the recent spate of reliability issues I’ve read I thought I’d bump this thread

 

[Ceejay]

All good so far, 750 miles and counting down to the thousand run in.

 

[digilotus]

From those I know down under who have collected their Emiras in the first delivery batch a few months ago, no issues to report so far so that's a good sign.

 

[Nellie]

I have now had mine for 16 days, collected from Lotus Silverstone, I am 570 miles into the 1000 run in period, it is a daily driver so is doing a mix of journey lengths.

At this moment in time that experience has been pain free, no problems at all with the car.

In fact this is only my second new car purchase were I have not had an issue in the first week (the following has some problem 3 of 4 Jaguars from new, 1 Peugeot, 1 Mercedes and 1 Lexus)

As an older Lotus model owner (1999 Esprit V8 GT) I am really happy with how far the dial has moved on Lotus build quality (I don't say reliability as I have only had 1 problem with the V8 in 15 years of ownership, a turbo oil seal went which I don't see as bad reliability for a car which is 24 years old )

My only challenge has been the customer service experience with Lotus, but that appears common to most and unrelated to the car itself.

 

[stewball]

Slightly off topic (sorry) but I had a perfect 1st post run-in drive this morning.

The heater was working, the sun was shining, the traffic was elsewhere and the roads were dry and winding…

I pushed the engine up to 6,000rpm… the car came alive, felt balance, smooth, alive and exhilarating (even with a small hangover).

It was everything I wanted from my car.

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Very beautyful in blue, I hesitate so much. I took it finaly in yellow.

No issue for me

 

[Concept24]

Congrats to Nellie and Stewball. Few people in this life can be recipients of such amazing luck. May more of us be so fortunate within the near future.