USA/Canada Delivery Thread

[LuckysDad]

Apparently this thread is no longer appearing in the active topics list, regardless of its activity.

@supersix @VL3X is there a glitch? Or is this intentional?

It's #1 in my active topics.
Did you by chance accidentally hit the ignore button?

 

[Porter]

It's #1 in my active topics.
Did you by chance accidentally hit the ignore button?

How strange, that was buried in a drop-down menu. So I had it in a state that was both "watched" and "ignored" simultaneously.

Good catch! Thanks.

 

[KCMO68_510]

I've seen my car at the dealership... but today was the first day that I opened the Porsche configurator to ask myself "What are you going to do if you still can't get your car in April after you are back from Hethel?"

Really hope they get this figured out soon for my wife's sanity of dealing with me.

 

[Climber]

let’s be real the second a tuner cracks that ecu yall aren’t gonna reflash this thing

Is that $13k over the old price or the new price?

New price

 

[RoryBellows]

For those in a CARB state has anyone purchased in another state and just brought it home from there. Ive bought cars in TX and registered in CA. Its just a VIN check and a smog test to get them on the road.

EDIT: For added context they were new cars straight off dealer lots.

 

[KCMO68_510]

For those in a CARB state has anyone purchased in another state and just brought it home from there. Ive bought cars in TX and registered in CA. Its just a VIN check and a smog test to get them on the road.

EDIT: For added context they were new cars straight off dealer lots.

If it's sold in the US they are all CARB certified already unless you are talking about something custom.

 

[drjazzsk]

Wrong. Configurator still shows a $530 charge. I know Forums are for information sharing. But it would be great if that information was correct from time to time...


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Nope, you are incorrect. When I posted it the website had changed as I mentioned. Why would I lie about that? What a moronic comment.

 

[evoxide]

QUESTION: Is anyone aware of any other import sports cars in the last few years that have suffered from this strange circumstance of awaiting CARB regulation while vehicles are physically on the ground at dealers?

It is my general understanding that Lotus may have the option to simply release them for delivery and pay a fine to the Federal Government if they cannot iron out the approval... The obscure details of this essential "stop sale" seem to fall under the same emissions-related regulations of why most brands are transitioning to EV and high MPGs, and why Tesla has been able to "sell" the "extra" tax-credits they have earned over the last few years to other OEMs. Not that I want the answer to the question to go off topic on EVs and tax credits... but, again, isn't there an option to just pay a fine and release these things for sale?

(Forgive me if the answer to this question is buried somewhere on the other 457 other pages of this thread)

 

[Barcino2012]

Hmm, "Anonymous Member"... More fake news??? That being said, about a month ago, I predicted the following scenarios listed below:

1. Just a few tweaks to the tuning and they are all set.
2. A slight reduction in the overall power output from the original tune.
3. Reduced driveability, such as reduced throttle response, and/or an introduction of rev hang.
4. Both reduced power output and reduced drivability.

If this new report is correct, I truly hope only option 1 or 2 will occur. If reports surface of poor drivability/rev hang after the re-flash, I will very likely cancel my order as I simply cannot justify the cost of this vehicle if it now has poor drivability. Other manufactures (specifically one starting with "P") have been able to tune their cars with good drivability and don't have rev hang like a civic.

On another note, I can't see how the cars will be updated without a flash from the dealer. CARB does not seem to like whatever tune is in the cars currently for some reason.

Moreover a reason to install JUBU’s 440hp ECU swap to put that deviled CARB ECU on a shelf

 

[CHEESE]

The most maddening thing about all of this CARB nonsense is that the Emiras have virtually zero impact on the environment in the grand scheme of things. We're all getting screwed over for years about something that is completely arbitrary and has zero impact and won't make any difference.

 

[evoxide]

QUESTION: Is anyone aware of any other import sports cars in the last few years that have suffered from this strange circumstance of awaiting CARB regulation while vehicles are physically on the ground at dealers?

It is my general understanding that Lotus may have the option to simply release them for delivery and pay a fine to the Federal Government if they cannot iron out the approval... The obscure details of this essential "stop sale" seem to fall under the same emissions-related regulations of why most brands are transitioning to EV and high MPGs, and why Tesla has been able to "sell" the "extra" tax-credits they have earned over the last few years to other OEMs. Not that I want the answer to the question to go off topic on EVs and tax credits... but, again, isn't there an option to just pay a fine and release these things for sale?

(Forgive me if the answer to this question is buried somewhere on the other 457 other pages of this thread)

Let me rephrase my question: Doesn't Lotus simply have the option to pay a fine to NHTSA for not meeting the CARB standard, and release and deliver the cars?

 

[erich]

The most maddening thing about all of this CARB nonsense is that the Emiras have virtually zero impact on the environment in the grand scheme of things. We're all getting screwed over for years about something that is completely arbitrary and has zero impact and won't make any difference.

If it helps get CARB approval, I promise to replace my catless BMW with a fully catted Emira.

 

[TCB]

Is there someone who is still waiting for the promised Lotus gift book and hat?

Yup, as well as any update on my car!

 

[FlyNavy01]

Let me rephrase my question: Doesn't Lotus simply have the option to pay a fine to NHTSA for not meeting the CARB standard, and release and deliver the cars?

CARB and NHTSA are two different entities. If they sell the cars before certification the fees would be in the millions and they'd likely face severe future consequences from the government. I'm also pretty sure you can't register a new car in many states unless it's either CARB compliant or has an exemption letter. The government would never make it that easy to just "ignore" them.

 

[4MIR3]

CARB and NHTSA are two different entities. If they sell the cars before certification the fees would be in the millions and they'd likely face severe future consequences from the government. I'm also pretty sure you can't register a new car in many states unless it's either CARB compliant or has an exemption letter. The government would never make it that easy to just "ignore" them.

Not only that... trying to get it through DEQ post purchase will not be possible for all CARB states.

 

[benjh1028]

@GatorMotorsport - can you provide ANY sliver of information? You guys have to be frustrated as well, but we would welcome any little bit of info you can give!

 

[silent cilantro]

Or @Bear Dalton

 

[KCMO68_510]

Maybe to pass the time we can try to guess whose account is really just a CARB employee account that is here to just egg us on for their own amusement.

 

[MYFASTEFE]

Maybe to pass the time we can try to guess whose account is really just a CARB employee account that is here to just egg us on for their own amusement.

Thats how we get to 600 pages lol

 

[benjh1028]

Maybe to pass the time we can try to guess whose account is really just a CARB employee account that is here to just egg us on for their own amusement.

kitKat! Who’s betting against me!