USA/Canada Delivery Thread

[Deeznuss]

Ah perhaps youre right. I’ve played with configurations on cellphone, laptop, and desktop and today was the first day I saw individual options.

To that point: when I sat in a v6 auto with red leather interior two weeks ago I noticed the leather steering wheel had contrasting red stitching. It really popped, looked great. After placing my manual FE order with black leather steering wheel I asked the dealer if I could order the wheel with contrasting yellow stitching. I was told no dice.
Now with the “new” (to me) configuration website I see you can only option a leather steering wheel with contrasting color stitching with an automatic transmission. Has this always been the case? If so why?!?
Sorry if previously discussed.

 

[Nova]

To that point: when I sat in a v6 auto with red leather interior two weeks ago I noticed the leather steering wheel had contrasting red stitching. It really popped, looked great. After placing my manual FE order with black leather steering wheel I asked the dealer if I could order the wheel with contrasting yellow stitching. I was told no dice.
Now with the “new” (to me) configuration website I see you can only option a leather steering wheel with contrasting color stitching with an automatic transmission. Has this always been the case? If so why?!?
Sorry if previously discussed.

Discussed many times indeed. Different steering suppliers is the cause.

 

[brainf18]

Nope, you are incorrect. When I posted it the website had changed as I mentioned. Why would I lie about that? What a moronic comment.

Not sure what's moronic about pointing out your mistake. Go to the configurator and see for yourself. Steering wheel in alcantara is a $530 Option

Lotus Cars - Immersive Car Configurator

Lotus Cars - Immersive Car Configurator

www.lotuscars.com

Geezzz...Don't be so defensive and lighten up "Karen"

 

[KCMO68_510]

kitKat! Who’s betting against me!

No... it's definitely someone who "was in" and is now "out". They were never in... just a CARB plant.

 

[DerTheDer]

Grumble

 

[Still gonna send it...]

I hope any tuning they have to do to the car to satisfy CARB doesn't adversely affect how the car performs for you guys, but one thing to bear in mind is that the 2GF-FE engine was first released nearly 20 years ago. As a result there may not be as many options available to Lotus to tune the car to CARB's liking as on say a Cayman that will have a more modern engine.

Yes, this has definitely been on my mind as well. Any vehicle with 20 year old port injected based engine technology is definitely not going to be as flexible from an emission turning standpoint as the modern direct injection engines. These are the engines that companies like Porsche have in their arsenal.

Another possibility is that the exhaust valving needed be adjusted to meet CARB's sound requirements, which are quite strict from my understanding. That being said, we still don't really have any valid information on the situation right now, so this is all speculation...

 

[Maurice R]

All this unfounded speculation on what CARB is up is amusing to me.
Keeps me entertained while waiting.

 

[kitkat]

Yes, this has definitely been on my mind as well. Any vehicle with 20 year old port injected based engine technology is definitely not going to be as flexible from an emission turning standpoint as the modern direct injection engines. These are the engines that companies like Porsche have in their arsenal.

Another possibility is that the exhaust valving needed be adjusted to meet CARB's sound requirements, which are quite strict from my understanding. That being said, we still don't really have any valid information on the situation right now, so this is all speculation...

CARB is not responsible for setting or enforcing any standards related to sound. Each state has their own laws about sound and California's sound limits are established by the California VEH code and enforced by the California bureau of automotive repair for citations (aka state ref).

 

[kitkat]

kitKat! Who’s betting against me!

You've got me, I decertified your car now.

 

[Stiffarm]

Seems like they randomly selected 5% of the people with orders, sent gifts to them, and then stopped.
I say "randomly" because people who placed their deposit about 2 years after I did got their gifts and I haven't.

EDIT: It would be nice to see a poll of who received the gift and who didn't

I got nothing--ordered two years ago.

 

[Time2Fly]

You've got me, I decertified your car now.

Rude

 

[Still gonna send it...]

CARB is not responsible for setting or enforcing any standards related to sound. Each state has their own laws about sound and California's sound limits are established by the California VEH code and enforced by the California bureau of automotive repair for citations (aka state ref).

Ah, another agency in the mix I see. Hopefully the car can pass that test too, at least for the sake of those in Cali...

 

[DaaS]

All this unfounded speculation on what CARB is up is amusing to me.
Keeps me entertained while waiting.

Didn’t you start the rumor about CARB getting pushed to March/April?

 

[kitkat]

I feel like we need a RAG AI chatbot for y'all to bounce your crazy CARB/EPA/Emissions/Regulatory theories and rumors off of.

 

[Maurice R]

Didn’t you start the rumor about CARB getting pushed to March/April?

Yes i did.
Was just stirring things up at the time due to all the unfounded speculation that is just ridiculous.

 

[morphious]

Alcantara steering wheel was a free option when I ordered my FE1, along with almost everything else. The only not-free options were black pack and vehicle tracker. Did that change with FE2?

I agree, it was free I thought back in 2021? When I placed my 1.0 order I thought there was only 2 options that had price increases.

EDIT: I never wanted Alcantara, but went back and checked the spec sheet and it may have always been a cost upgrade.

 

[neonate]

To that point: when I sat in a v6 auto with red leather interior two weeks ago I noticed the leather steering wheel had contrasting red stitching. It really popped, looked great. After placing my manual FE order with black leather steering wheel I asked the dealer if I could order the wheel with contrasting yellow stitching. I was told no dice.
Now with the “new” (to me) configuration website I see you can only option a leather steering wheel with contrasting color stitching with an automatic transmission. Has this always been the case? If so why?!?
Sorry if previously discussed.

Yes, that is correct. Mine is Auto V6 and I was able to order black leather with contract red stitching. That option was not available for manual for some reason. Oct 21 deposit, Aug 23 order, Delivery -some time....... not soon!

 

[kitkat]

I agree, it was free I thought back in 2021? When I placed my 1.0 order I thought there was only 2 options that had price increases.

EDIT: I never wanted Alcantara, but went back and checked the spec sheet and it may have always been a cost upgrade.

Weird, I ordered March 5th, 2022 and I suspect the majority of the earliest of the Lotus order submission dates for US were around then and the alcantara steering wheel was a $530 option.

I'm talking about a real order with an approved submission id and not some reservation/interest form.

 

[morphious]

Weird, I ordered March 5th, 2022 and I suspect the majority of the earliest of the Lotus order submission dates for US were around then and the alcantara steering wheel was a $530 option.

I'm talking about a real order with an approved submission id and not some reservation/interest form.

Yes, looking at the spec sheet I believe it was always a cost option. I placed my order 5/14/22, confirmed by Lotus 5/16/22, never wanted that option so never paid attention to it.

 

[Blackthought_]

On a Facebook forum I am member of, a salesman at a reputable lotus dealer posted the following:

“All US cars received a software update when they first arrived at dealers weeks/months ago. Lotus didn’t elaborate on what the update entailed. The latest communication instructed dealers to verify all cars had received the update, not a new/additional update.

From my understanding, this addressed issues discovered on earlier production cars, not necessarily related to emissions.”

So it appears that the software update is not “detuning” the car or anything like that. I imagine it was a software patch to fix the issues that other members were experiencing.