Anyone received their 30 day notification yet?

[BeHappy]

Bet we all can’t sleep with the excitement of knowing we now will be told what QUARTER !!!! ours cars may turn up Probably don’t commit to a year either……..
Lotus are just giving themselves even more leyway so that they haven’t got to keep giving us new delivery dates just before our cars are due for the 5th, 6th, 99th time - just to keep us all on our toes with never ending excitement and implementing efficiency saving CS sending us millions of emails
# the gift that keeps on giving but doesn’t turn up at Christmas Lotus delaying Christmas this year

 

[Chadder]

Bet we all can’t sleep with the excitement of knowing we now will be told what QUARTER !!!! ours cars may turn up Probably don’t commit to a year either……..
Lotus are just giving themselves even more leyway so that they haven’t got to keep giving us new delivery dates just before our cars are due for the 5th, 6th, 99th time - just to keep us all on our toes with never ending excitement and implementing efficiency saving CS sending us millions of emails
# the gift that keeps one giving but doesn’t turn up at Christmas Lotus delaying Christmas this year

Does Lotus know that Christmas is soooon

 

[prestonc]

O for goodness sake

How do you spell thpfhlthpthlthpthpthllllthpttthhpp

 

[Bilbao-Emira]

How do you spell thpfhlthpthlthpthpthllllthpttthhpp

tea-eich-pee-ef-eich-el-tea-eich-pee-tea-eich-el-tea-eich-pee-tea-eich-pee-tea-eich-el-el-el-el-el-tea-eich-pee-tea-tea-tea-eich-eich-pee-pee

 

[prestonc]

tea-eich-pee-ef-eich-el-tea-eich-pee-tea-eich-el-tea-eich-pee-tea-eich-pee-tea-eich-el-el-el-el-el-tea-eich-pee-tea-tea-tea-eich-eich-pee-pee

 

[Magicman]

This shit is hilarious

 

[dgrace]

I spoke with CS today and was told
Friday, all info will go out to all depositors with an update.

Friday of what year?

 

[Scruff111S]

I spoke with CS today and was told
Friday, all info will go out to all depositors with an update.

I will believe that when I see it.

 

[Citizen]

I was told today that the email with major communications for all deposit holders is due out tomorrow and that checkout emails are on hold till then…

This will be only for UK market or global ??

 

[TomE]

It’ll be UK only and is the update mentioned in the email sent to UK depositors last Friday. Lotus Customer Care handles comms with UK customers.

Dealers handle comms elsewhere and they are reliant on updates from Lotus HQ.

 

[Forlorn]

It’ll be UK only and is the update mentioned in the email sent to UK depositors last Friday. Lotus Customer Care handles comms with UK customers.

Dealers handle comms elsewhere and they are reliant on updates from Lotus HQ.

I do hope they don’t delay dealer (agency) demo cars yet again. Will we ever get a chance to drive this car on our scarred and battered blacktops?
If members do get to test, we should report findings about gearbox, ride, noise etc as I am positive each car will be ever so slightly different in these departments. A common consensus needs to be undertaken.

 

[Hobiedick]

It’ll be UK only and is the update mentioned in the email sent to UK depositors last Friday. Lotus Customer Care handles comms with UK customers.

Dealers handle comms elsewhere and they are reliant on updates from Lotus HQ.

Tom I think you got the name wrong, it is, Lotus Customer DONTcare department.

 

[Mistral]

If the issue with UK cars is type approval, as suggested by @TomE and expanded upon by @JohnHoward, if Lotus missed the July 1st cut off for approval, will the Emira be fitted with a speed limiter and lane assist etc? I imagine that would be a deal breaker for a number of people, including me. A Lotus, as well as any proper sports car is to be driven. It's not supposed to drive you.

 

[Bilbao-Emira]

If the issue with UK cars is type approval, as suggested by @TomE and expanded upon by @JohnHoward, if Lotus missed the July 1st cut off for approval, will the Emira be fitted with a speed limiter and lane assist etc? I imagine that would be a deal breaker for a number of people, including me. A Lotus, as well as any proper sports car is to be driven. It's not supposed to drive you.

I hope not, otherwise there could be a big problem in delays due to chip supplies for ADAS.
In any case, if they were fitted, should be no problem, you can always disconnect them I guess

 

[Lots_Of_Trouble]

If the issue with UK cars is type approval, as suggested by @TomE and expanded upon by @JohnHoward, if Lotus missed the July 1st cut off for approval, will the Emira be fitted with a speed limiter and lane assist etc? I imagine that would be a deal breaker for a number of people, including me. A Lotus, as well as any proper sports car is to be driven. It's not supposed to drive you.

This was my concern too

 

[Mistral]

I hope not, otherwise there could be a big problem in delays due to chip supplies for ADAS.
In any case, if they were fitted, should be no problem, you can always disconnect them I guess

It may be possible to disconnect but wouldn’t that void the type approval and be illegal?

 

[PaperLawyer]

It may be possible to disconnect but wouldn’t that void the type approval and be illegal?

Or, as a minimum, potentially void insurance?

Edit: Assuming not a simple function that can be turned off with a button press, like stop-start

 

[Bilbao-Emira]

It may be possible to disconnect but wouldn’t that void the type approval and be illegal?

I´m not sure in the future, but right now I have all this features in the Range Rover and all of them are configurable to connect/disconnect in the screen menu

 

[JohnHoward]

If the issue with UK cars is type approval, as suggested by @TomE and expanded upon by @JohnHoward, if Lotus missed the July 1st cut off for approval, will the Emira be fitted with a speed limiter and lane assist etc? I imagine that would be a deal breaker for a number of people, including me. A Lotus, as well as any proper sports car is to be driven. It's not supposed to drive you.

This is exactly what I have been thinking regarding the revised legislation, but I have been reluctant to comment on it as I seem to be constantly having a go at Lotus and it pains me to be like that.

I think that there may be two further problems for Lotus to overcome. The first one is the very well publicised chip shortage, If Lotus suddenly need a batch of chips, they are going to find themselves in the same shoes as a latecomer Emira depositor i.e. at the back of the queue.

The second potential issue is that we know from photos of prototypes that Lotus were working on ADAS, but this was dropped for the FE V6, but we do not know why. We could assume that it is the aforementioned chip shortage, but it could be that they could not get it to work in the way they wanted. Of course full ADAS is not compatible with the current steering setup of the V6. As they pushed ahead with the development of the car minus ADAS, further changes especially in the ECU and electronics may have sent them down a one-way street, meaning that retrofitting elements of ADAS is not possible.

But this does not explain why European/ROW Type Approval has been achieved. This next paragraph is purely conjecture and I have no evidence for it, but I do have life experience of this type of situation. I think this may be human factors. As I mentioned in a previous post, my career before I retired was in a very highly regulated environment, government inspectors watched our every move. Part of my role was maintaining relationships with these inspectors and some of them were very challenging. I can easily see a situation where an inspector has taken it upon themselves to give Lotus a hard time, either in the hope they will make a name for themselves, or perhaps because they have fallen out with whoever is responsible for managing the relationship. I know that this may sound a little far fetched, but I saw this with my own eyes and managed this kind of thing on a daily basis

With EU/ROW approval being a completely separate process and of course different sets of inspectors, this problem that I describe would not occur.

I have said with previous things I have written, that I hope I am wrong, in fact, I would be delighted to be wrong and if I am I will apologise. I still want my Emira (despite a voice in my head saying Alpine A110), I want Lotus to continue to be a successful UK manufacturer providing jobs for many on site and supporting many more families, jobs, industry and commerce in their supply chain. I just wish they would be truthful with us.

 

[Bilbao-Emira]

I am no expert in the matter, therefore I might be wrong, but I see all these ADAS features as a help to the driver, therefore not using them should be no penalty from insurance in case of an accident, since none of them make the car safer itself, at the end is the driver responsibility to drive safe, no matter if you have features to help or not.
Somebody in here might be able to give us more clarity.