I'm out - the cancellations thread

[lion shf]

Driving them and seeing them moving in the wild they absolutely shrink.

 

[Leonard]

Driving them and seeing them moving in the wild they absolutely shrink.

I thought you said stink

 

[lion shf]

I thought you said stink

I’m putting you on ignore for an hour 45

 

[Leonard]

I’m putting you on ignore for an hour 45

Only 45? I must be becoming more palatable.

I actually secretly quite like the C8

Shhhhh don't tell anyone

 

[Porter]

Honestly the Emira wouldn’t be of interest to me as a second car, I’d go way more hardcore for a second weekend car. As a daily I think 718/C8/Emira are all A+ choices for this guy

I'm at a loss regarding the "hardcore" thing... what criteria are you using? Raw power?

The test drive I had in the Emira placed it pretty squarely in serious driver-feedback-oriented sports car territory, WAY more so than any BMW product in recent years, including the M stuff. It's not outright performance that makes something hardcore in my view, it's how close to the bone it cuts in the feedback loop of driver inputs to vehicle response, and the feel of that change back through the controls. The Emira has that in spades. Most other modern "sports" or "high performance" vehicles generally do not, other than Porsche, until you get into supercar price categories.

The fact that the Emira is regarded as "softer" compared to previous Lotus products like the Elise and Exige doesn't say anything about the Emira, rather it says something about how extreme those products have been as precision tools for demanding drivers. The fact that they were exceptional doesn't make the Emira less good on its own merits compared against the worldwide marketplace.

 

[TomE]

I've just realised I've closed the credit card on which I paid my deposits

Did those arguing with Lotus BS about this get anywhere with their refunds?

It's covered on this thread:

UK refunds following cancellation

Good luck getting your deposit back. It seems likely that a group of us will need to appoint lawyers after New Year, I'm getting knowhere with CC. I'm hoping direct contact with Matt Windle will help.

www.emiraforum.com

 

[Leonard]

I'm at a loss regarding the "hardcore" thing... what criteria are you using? Raw power?

The test drive I had in the Emira placed it pretty squarely in serious driver-feedback-oriented sports car territory, WAY more so than any BMW product in recent years, including the M stuff. It's not outright performance that makes something hardcore in my view, it's how close to the bone it cuts in the feedback loop of driver inputs to vehicle response, and the feel of that change back through the controls. The Emira has that in spades. Most other modern "sports" or "high performance" vehicles generally do not, other than Porsche, until you get into supercar price categories.

The fact that the Emira is regarded as "softer" compared to previous Lotus products like the Elise and Exige doesn't say anything about the Emira, rather it says something about how extreme those products have been as precision tools for demanding drivers. The fact that they were exceptional doesn't make the Emira less good on its own merits compared against the worldwide marketplace.

Not arguing for arguing sake, but we aren't comparing to Elise and Exige though are we? More the 'softer' Evora.

The steering on the Emira is AMAZING totally Evora/Lotus like.

Everything else from turn in to power delivery wasn't second car exciting.

BUT it does totally depend on what you are coming from and what you were expecting.

If you are being kind, it's too easy to live with now. There is no drama bar the way it looks

 

[lion shf]

I'm at a loss regarding the "hardcore" thing... what criteria are you using? Raw power?

The test drive I had in the Emira placed it pretty squarely in serious driver-feedback-oriented sports car territory, WAY more so than any BMW product in recent years, including the M stuff. It's not outright performance that makes something hardcore in my view, it's how close to the bone it cuts in the feedback loop of driver inputs to vehicle response, and the feel of that change back through the controls. The Emira has that in spades. Most other modern "sports" or "high performance" vehicles generally do not, other than Porsche, until you get into supercar price categories.

The fact that the Emira is regarded as "softer" compared to previous Lotus products like the Elise and Exige doesn't say anything about the Emira, rather it says something about how extreme those products have been as precision tools for demanding drivers. The fact that they were exceptional doesn't make the Emira less good on its own merits compared against the worldwide marketplace.

Size. The answer is always Miata but if I sold my TT and replaced with a 4C etc my wife would freak out. So I say what I say because of my personal dynamics. I equate small lite loud with hardcore. I drove my Miata back and forth Friday to Sunday from Glenview to State College (20 hours rt) solo to visit my sons on football weekends 10 times my wife finally begged me to sell it.

 

[Leonard]

Size. The answer is always Miata but if I sold my TT and replaced with a 4C etc my wife would freak out. So I say what I say because of my personal dynamics. I equate small lite loud with hardcore. I drove my Miata back and forth Friday to Sunday from Glenview to State College solo to visit my sons on football weekends 10 times my wife finally begged me to sell it.

You don't want a 4C. Trust me.
Get the Emira

 

[lion shf]

Did L say something?

 

[Porter]

Size. The answer is always Miata but if I sold my TT and replaced with a 4C etc my wife would freak out. So I say what I say because of my personal dynamics. I equate small lite loud with hardcore. I drove my Miata back and forth Friday to Sunday from Glenview to State College (20 hours rt) solo to visit my sons on football weekends 10 times my wife finally begged me to sell it.

If that's your desired criteria, I have a suitably uncomfortable recommendation for you. It's even still a "Lotus"!

 

[Leonard]

If that's your desired criteria, I have a suitably uncomfortable recommendation for you. It's even still a "Lotus"!

Come join me and EmiraSpain
I'm thinking EV daily and lightweight Caterham weekender is the future
I would of course need a GT as well... Emira?

 

[lion shf]

Come join me and EmiraSpain
I'm thinking EV daily and lightweight Caterham weekender is the future
I would of course need a GT as well... Emira?

We’re going new roof, old yacht, Emira
then my girls ev, in that order.

 

[Maurice R]

Come join me and EmiraSpain
I'm thinking EV daily and lightweight Caterham weekender is the future
I would of course need a GT as well... Emira?

I really want one of those. Can I come to Spain and test drive with you & EmiraSpain.
If they were sold as a complete car in US I definitely would buy one.

 

[Leonard]

I really want one of those. Can I come to Spain and test drive with you & EmiraSpain.
If they were sold as a complete car in US I definitely would buy one.

Hell yeah.

Bit if a squeeze. But come to UK and we will road trip it over and get a flight back!

I need to get to Texas as well.

 

[Tonyshepp]

In the meantime driving the amg gt this morning and R8 this afternoon!

I settled on a 2 year old V8 AWD Ftype with all the options and 6k miles on the clock, comes nest week from Kent. I loved the Noise and drana of the vantage but used prices are steep. The Ftype won because it had,In my mind, a more cohesive interior. I'd also have an AMG and R8 too. Enjoy

 

[kbhoz]

Emira on order

Lotus have released a new car. It looks great. The Emira is very popular. This is just some fun as I wait for delivery.

www.captiongenerator.com

 

[BeHappy]

I settled on a 2 year old V8 AWD Ftype with all the options and 6k miles on the clock, comes nest week from Kent. I loved the Noise and drana of the vantage but used prices are steep. The Ftype won because it had,In my mind, a more cohesive interior. I'd also have an AMG and R8 too. Enjoy

Congratulations photos when she arrives - which colour have you gone for …..

 

[BeHappy]

Emira on order

Lotus have released a new car. It looks great. The Emira is very popular. This is just some fun as I wait for delivery.

www.captiongenerator.com

 

[Tonyshepp]

Congratulations photos when she arrives - which colour have you gone for …..

Carpathian Grey, there was only 2 to choose from in the country and the one in the same town as I live didn't have all the options.