What engine will you go with Toyota V6 or AMG 4? [poll]

[thunt]

Hello,
I’m new on the forum, very interesting movie although I think that the AMG engine is the M260 (A35) which is totally different engine than the M138 (A45) which from what I found based on a different block. Although it stays a good alternative for the V6, I guess the AMG M139 engine would be to close or even over class the V6 considering his power, weight and consumption ratio. The sound however is another story. Anyone some inside information?
Cheers,
Mr Ray

There’s been at least 2 videos I’ve seen were Lotus staff have agreed that it is the m139. Their marketing material has also said “the most powerful 4 cylinder in the world”, which is the m139.
Don’t forget the 4 cylinder is going to be the performance version eventually so they couldn’t be using a lower performing engine

 

[eclat2emira]

In terms of Lotus history and heritage, I like the fact that a 4-pot with a very high specifc output per litre harks back to the old Lotus-Ford big valve 1600cc twin-cam and also the Lotus type 900 slant 4 that was in the Esprit (pre-V8), Elite, Eclat and Excel.

Classic Lotus philosophy - getting more out of less - very literally more bangs for your buck!

Type 900 below; scroll down for Big valve twin-cam

 

[falconexe]

I put down a deposit today on the V6 Manual. In my opinion, if you are going to get the "last hurrah" of an Internal Combustion Engine (ICE), then you might as well get the most out of that ICE and driving pleasure/experience. Yeah, I'm feeling a bit old and my knee will probably hate me, but I'll be damned if I'm not smiling every time I shift gears ha ha. Can't wait to roll up to Teslas and let them hear the sound of fossil fuel combusting next to them.

 

[Type25]

Lots of interesting views. I can see for some like me it depends what you are seeking from it. I’m going for the classic Lotus 4 pot, albeit with the amazing engine of an AMG. Personally I get my aural kicks from a V8 elsewhere so looking for the Emira to be closer to a thrilling daily and something different from my long held Elise.

 

[Stormcloud]

After seeing the car today, I'm now in the i4 camp. It's such a nice looking car it's not a car I'd thrash about, so have no need for a manual and think neither 360 or 400 is particularly potent at 1400kg, it may look like a 120k car, but neither option gives it serious poke. Very happy to GT it though, which is the new plan.

 

[EspritGuy]

And then there is this path for the AMG powerplant.. F1 MGU technology anyone??

Mercedes-AMG Is Putting an Electric Turbocharger Into Production

AMG is bringing Formula 1 technology to the road. This is potentially a game-changer.

www.roadandtrack.com

So what's the chance this may debut in the Emira.?

 

[Nova]

So what's the chance this may debut in the Emira.?

Slim to none. This is AMG's best tech. They are not going to put it in a Lotus this early. They will let the C63 have that powerplant exclusively for at least 2-3 years, and maybe even put it in newer A45S or CLA45S cars. In the meantime, Lotus can upgrade to the 416hp version. Note that the electric enhanced turbo version of the M139 requires a 48 volt electric system, a suitable battery, and charging system, so it is a little more involved than just dropping in a new engine.

 

[Phantome46]

AMG 100% i'll wait. the 3.5L v6 has merit but i like the turbo car driving experience and also the lower road tax rate and lower emissions standards will make that one very desirable in a world where petrol is running out.

 

[torstin]

AMG 100% i'll wait. the 3.5L v6 has merit but i like the turbo car driving experience and also the lower road tax rate and lower emissions standards will make that one very desirable in a world where petrol is running out.

Petrol is not running out and especially won’t be when all the Gretas have gone electric

 

[EspritGuy]

Petrol is not running out and especially won’t be when all the Gretas have gone electric

Ha. Nice joke reference.

 

[everett]

I prefer the Toyota V6. I like dependability and few headaches.

 

[kbhoz]

Significant difference in engine sizes!

 

[Jonhklee]

Significant difference in engine sizes!
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Wow. The i4 is so much more compact and Lower down on the rear axle!

 

[TassieDevil]

Significant difference in engine sizes!
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Where do these diagrams come from ?

 

[kbhoz]

Someone posted this - I can't remember where . Many thank to original poster - the diagram is on the last page.

 

[TomE]

Someone posted this - I can't remember where . Many thank to original poster - the diagram is on the last page.

“Someone” checking in

It was here: https://www.emiraforum.com/threads/v6-first-edition-specification-document.278/

Happy to help

 

[Leonard]

that the engine would be tuned for maximum torque..

That combined with the dual clutch gearbox will probably make it as fast as the V6 in the real

 

[CanadianEmira]

That combined with the dual clutch gearbox will probably make it as fast as the V6 in the real

Hard to say. The manual M2 Competition is faster than its DCT version, despite having the exact same horsepower. A lot of different factors will come into play, including launch control on the DCT and weight, but I think we'll have to wait until reviewers get their hands on both.

 

[Nova]

That combined with the dual clutch gearbox will probably make it as fast as the V6 in the real

If the FE I4 comes with 400HP, I would expect it to be consistently faster than the V6 in instrumented tests.

 

[CanadianEmira]

If the FE I4 comes with 400HP, I would expect it to be consistently faster than the V6 in instrumented tests.

The I4 is 360hp.