Emiras advertised for sale on other sites

[Mctaff]

Market analysis and trends for car ownership, supply and demand, underlying economic macro and micro trends, product and brand history analysis …. All sounds like a skill to me

 

[Cachaco131]

Market analysis and trends for car ownership, supply and demand, underlying economic macro and micro trends, product and brand history analysis …. All sounds like a skill to me

Selling your newly arrived car in a slowing market, with higher interest rates and with zero car specific market information is gambling. Glad that it worked out but in the investment world that doesn't go through an IC. That and Vegas is the same

 

[Lotustoronto]

Due to fact I’ve ordered a new BMW Mi240 X drive ( got carried away on all the options lol ) and don’t think I can go another 4/5 months without my own car ( I could get a grey one straight away but I want purple )
my poor hubby never has his Disco as I have it every w/e and feel guilt he using his work van for golf ️ and I’m in the camp of using my Emira till my new car comes. I would be really hoping though that I don’t loose big time on the Emira for 4/5 months. I don’t do many miles and I’ll surely enjoy her but would this plan cost me big bucks to enjoy a few w/e miles

I do not think anyone will "lose" big time. My guess it will cost you a few thousand pounds to drive for 5 months. Maybe 5K at most. (that's including insurance and petrol etc. all in)

 

[Lotustoronto]

Selling your newly arrived car in a slowing market, with higher interest rates and with zero car specific market information is gambling. Glad that it worked out but in the investment world that doesn't go through an IC. That and Vegas is the same

Yes and no. Vegas is pure gambling. Buying a high demand car that has an order book larger than 2 years worth of production isn't exactly gambling. It leans more to safer bet the depreciation curve won't be very large if any at the beginning. Will it get huge over MSRP, I don't know. Will it lose 10K driving it off the lot, probably not - just based on the demand. I would have no issue driving the Emira for 6 months and knowing it will probably cost me less than a Kia for the same amount of time.

 

[SuperBusa]

Yes and no. Vegas is pure gambling. Buying a high demand car that has an order book larger than 2 years worth of production isn't exactly gambling. It leans more to safer bet the depreciation curve won't be very large if any at the beginning. Will it get huge over MSRP, I don't know. Will it lose 10K driving it off the lot, probably not - just based on the demand. I would have no issue driving the Emira for 6 months and knowing it will probably cost me less than a Kia for the same amount of time.

In normal times I would completely agree, not sure we are currently entering "normal" times. However I do hope your right.

 

[emiraspain]

Yes and no. Vegas is pure gambling. Buying a high demand car that has an order book larger than 2 years worth of production isn't exactly gambling. It leans more to safer bet the depreciation curve won't be very large if any at the beginning. Will it get huge over MSRP, I don't know. Will it lose 10K driving it off the lot, probably not - just based on the demand. I would have no issue driving the Emira for 6 months and knowing it will probably cost me less than a Kia for the same amount of time.

I agree
Vegas is a none sensical comparison as you put 100k down in vegas and if you loose, you LOOSE ALL YOUR MONEY... it is virtually impossible to loose all your money on the Emira, it surely CANT be that bad!
Harry seems to be enjoying it, took it to Italy and although there will surely be a few niggles, overall I believe his review and other reviews later from him will HELP residuals and hence less risk for @AudR8 and for me IF I were to do the same thing, which I would not in the UK as the weather sucks for the next 3 - 4 months (6 months to a year in Canada) and hence I think its better just to wait it out or get something short term NOW...not await the Emira which could still be another 2 months for you? You never know...
While there is not too much skill and it is "luck" dependent, I think the stockmarket is also luck dependent in many ways and most of the experts claim they know far more than they do and make money off others money, rather than off their own money... ie they win no matter whether you as an investor do or not... But what do I know.
We've been through all of this..... and we are off topic, as again, we are only meant to post adverts!

 

[Cachaco131]

I agree
Vegas is a none sensical comparison as you put 100k down in vegas and if you loose, you LOOSE ALL YOUR MONEY... it is virtually impossible to loose all your money on the Emira, it surely CANT be that bad!
Harry seems to be enjoying it, took it to Italy and although there will surely be a few niggles, overall I believe his review and other reviews later from him will HELP residuals and hence less risk for @AudR8 and for me IF I were to do the same thing, which I would not in the UK as the weather sucks for the next 3 - 4 months (6 months to a year in Canada) and hence I think its better just to wait it out or get something short term NOW...not await the Emira which could still be another 2 months for you? You never know...
While there is not too much skill and it is "luck" dependent, I think the stockmarket is also luck dependent in many ways and most of the experts claim they know far more than they do and make money off others money, rather than off their own money... ie they win no matter whether you as an investor do or not... But what do I know.
We've been through all of this..... and we are off topic, as again, we are only meant to post adverts!

Joder - respectfully, I hope you are not in the investment business. Especially advising clients. I've been working managing third party institutional capital for two decades and can tell the difference between investing and betting. If you don't like Vegas comparison that's ok, but there are no fundamentals here. It's a hope strategy.

 

[emiraspain]

Joder - respectfully, I hope you are not in the investment business. Especially advising clients. I've been working managing third party institutional capital for two decades and can tell the difference between investing and betting. If you don't like Vegas comparison that's ok, but there are no fundamentals here. It's a hope strategy.

haha...Im not, but I have worked with many investment managers and they all seem to know everything, after the fact.. hah.. but well, lets not get personal.
It is a bit of hope, but common sense tells you any car with a waiting list of 18 months should sell for overs..... especially the first few.... not much hope needed I'd say, but I do hope..

 

[Cachaco131]

haha...Im not, but I have worked with many investment managers and they all seem to know everything, after the fact.. hah.. but well, lets not get personal.
It is a bit of hope, but common sense tells you any car with a waiting list of 18 months should sell for overs..... especially the first few.... not much hope needed I'd say, but I do hope..

I HOPE you are right and people do well. I'm no @Leonard ! But other than a few folks, it's hard to make a living of cars so I'll stick to the more tried and true asset classes.

 

[Lotustoronto]

In normal times I would completely agree, not sure we are currently entering "normal" times. However I do hope your right.

keep in mind, our current interest rate situation / recession is government inflicted/induced. Both by injecting money because of covid and lockdowns / broken supply chains. They can stop short of crushing the economy if they want. But don't get me wrong, I believe it is a necessary move to get us back to "normal" economic growth, but the fed can "flip" the switch and keep it moving.

Cars are not investments *disclaimer* I agree with @Cachaco131 anyone buying the Emira to solely make money, was never a good idea, just more luck than anything. Still think it will hold its value much better than any new car you can just buy on the lot.

**if nuclear war happens all bets are off.

 

[JohnHoward]

I think it’s been re-listed on Autotrader and Pistonheads at £99k. I haven’t checked the details to see if it’s the same dealer and car.

@TomE is this the one?

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Looks a bit strange to me, first registered 1/5/22 and stock photos of a left hand drive.
If you open the page in Microsoft Edge on a PC, it shows the price history as £115,950 on 29/11/22 and a 14% reduction to £99,950 on 1/12/22
Something is not right here. Registration date is clearly wrong, this is months before UK first delivery and showing photos of LHD. It is also not on Slades website.
It is almost like someone is trying to gauge interest in 2nd hand prices perhaps they have hacked Slades Autotrader account to get it listed with a redirect on the Slades Autotrader enquiry page possibly to get feedback/measure interest. I may be completely wrong, I have been wrong before! But for me there are many alarm bells ringing with this one.

 

[emiraspain]

CC now up to
£77,500
Emera2022

I hope they do really know how to spell Emeera.......
FInishes on Monday. If it wasnt yellow, I'd put a bid in myself......

 

[Mctaff]

They’ve changed their name now… looks like someone who has signed up specifically to bid on the emira then… so a customer not a dealer

 

[emiraspain]

They’ve changed their name now… looks like someone who has signed up specifically to bid on the emira then… so a customer not a dealer

Well, Im not sure "they have changed their name" have they? I think its just another person haha.
There are different grades of people that come on here. The chancers who fancy getting a car with no reserve for half the value, then those that see they can maybe make a few grand and aim to get it about 10-20% cheaper than its worth, then those that want the car, but dont want to pay over the odds, this is where we are now.
Then finally, on Sunday but more Monday, you get those that want the car and dont mind paying a bit more as they want the car and can afford it...
I am the sort of buyer from before the auction started.. ahah

 

[Mctaff]

CC now up to
£77,500
Emera2022

I hope they do really know how to spell Emeera.......

I meant the spelling on cc is now correct… hence I assume they’ve changed their logon name based on the above

I think we’re now close to the point where dealers will disappear- we know one dealer will pay c86k based on motorway and we’re nearly there with the whopping fee… so it’s customers and enthusiasts only from now on I reckon…

 

[emiraspain]

I meant the spelling on cc is now correct… hence I assume they’ve changed their logon name based on the above

I think we’re now close to the point where dealers will disappear- we know one dealer will pay c86k based on motorway and we’re nearly there with the whopping fee… so it’s customers and enthusiasts only from now on I reckon…

ohh i see....
yes close to 80 and a dealer isnt paying that plus 5 6 k commission.
Im still going for over 90.....
and the next one on there the same, IF it isnt yellow or DV or grey....
going to be exciting, more so even than englands game on Sunday.. hah

 

[Rollie]

Belgium

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[emiraspain]

800 km... nice, get the car, use it... decide to move on.... free world.
the CC car is still at the dealership in Nottingham it appears. We were told they had to move it....clearly not the case, although I am sure Lotus would like them to do so... still, next week it will be gone.

 

[1stczechemira]

This offer is new: an immediately available Emira V6 man FE with just delivery kms, never really driven, 124.899 EUR incl. 19 % of German VAT (stated in the text). In Germany there is no luxury tax, so the profit would be about 25.000 EUR (gross) if it will be sold as it is advertised. The photos should be real (Komotec number plate holders).

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=355705410&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=15900&makeModelVariant1.modelId=14&pageNumber=1&scopeId=C&sortOption.sortBy=relevance&action=eyeCatcher&fnai=prev&searchId=dcafa8dc-f265-7c10-70a7-ee22e523a75b&ref=srp

They made it 2.400 EUR less. So for 124.899 EUR apparently zero interest.

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=356881994&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=15900&makeModelVariant1.modelId=14&pageNumber=1&scopeId=C&sortOption.sortBy=relevance&action=eyeCatcher&fnai=prev&searchId=4ee1a4f3-3d0d-a5e3-0fb9-7a8d5456a8ab&ref=srp

 

[1stczechemira]

CC Emira at 78.000 GBP + commission now. Small step but it shows there is some interest for the Emira.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2022-lotus-emira