USA/Canada Delivery Thread

[KCMO68_510]

I honestly care less about whether it's 400HP vs 395HP at peak than I care about them messing with the throttle response to improve the emissions. So you are right... it could have the same HP/TQ and just have shit response after a flash.

That being said... I kind of believe whatever flash will make them compliant was already on the cars before being shipped and that dealers are not just suddenly revolving door flashing cars left and right.

 

[Time2Fly]

...dealers are not just suddenly flashing cars left and right.

Don't be so sure.

 

[kitkat]

I honestly care less about whether it's 400HP vs 395HP at peak than I care about them messing with the throttle response to improve the emissions. So you are right... it could have the same HP/TQ and just have shit response after a flash.

That being said... I kind of believe whatever flash will make them compliant was already on the cars before being shipped and that dealers are not just suddenly revolving door flashing cars left and right.

I’ve posted this before but the tip in and tip out emissions numbers looked too clean, as if they coached the test driver. My guess is that the new software modifies tip in and tip out, most likely this has no effect on power output but it does affect response. I’m guessing we see lag in low end response and rev hang.

I’d love to be proved wrong, I’d really like a press release from Lotus about it.

 

[KCMO68_510]

Emira is the new "fetch"

 

[Climber]

They are refunding it. They didn't put up a fight or ask any questions. Just accepted my decision and issued the refund.

? What did you expect? Dallas is selling unclaimed cars for 13k over new price.. Any dealership would welcome the opportunity to make more money….

Personally my car is at the dealership so I am patiently waiting

 

[KCMO68_510]

 

[Still gonna send it...]

Hmm, "Anonymous Member"... More fake news??? That being said, about a month ago, I predicted the following scenarios listed below:

1. Just a few tweaks to the tuning and they are all set.
2. A slight reduction in the overall power output from the original tune.
3. Reduced driveability, such as reduced throttle response, and/or an introduction of rev hang.
4. Both reduced power output and reduced drivability.

If this new report is correct, I truly hope only option 1 or 2 will occur. If reports surface of poor drivability/rev hang after the re-flash, I will very likely cancel my order as I simply cannot justify the cost of this vehicle if it now has poor drivability. Other manufactures (specifically one starting with "P") have been able to tune their cars with good drivability and don't have rev hang like a civic.

On another note, I can't see how the cars will be updated without a flash from the dealer. CARB does not seem to like whatever tune is in the cars currently for some reason.

 

[silent cilantro]

Lotus is never gonna tell us what changes they made.

Unfortunately I think at this point they’re more concerned with getting these cars sold than with throttle response/peak power/driveability.

They’re gonna clean up whatever they need to clean up at any cost.

Just my thoughts, I’m a pessimist.

 

[DF_Toronto]

SERENITY NOW! April Fool’s Day is…soon.

 

[Climber]

Lotus is never gonna tell us what changes they made.

Unfortunately I think at this point they’re more concerned with getting these cars sold than with throttle response/peak power/driveability.

They’re gonna clean up whatever they need to clean up at any cost.

Just my thoughts, I’m a pessimist.

Fear is a illusion…
We really don’t know what’s going on, the Evora passed with more power. I believe that they didn’t expect the CARB to take this long.
They gave a window Fed - March 12.
We still have two weeks

 

[Climber]

Fear is a illusion…
We really don’t know what’s going on, the Evora passed with more power. I believe that they didn’t expect the CARB to take this long.
They gave a window Fed - March 12.
We still have two weeks

 

[24EmiraUS]

let’s be real the second a tuner cracks that ecu yall aren’t gonna reflash this thing anyway?

 

[C7R35]

My old dealer is doing ECU flashes. New dealer called me to ask if I had any more questions about the sale process.

Guess it’s time to hurry up and get rid of this spare SUV to make room. Thinking I’ll throw it on Cars and Bids - someone out there must want a loaded CPO Range Rover right?

 

[kitkat]

let’s be real the second a tuner cracks that ecu yall aren’t gonna reflash this thing anyway?

Nope. Warranty for 3 years, you’re gonna need it.

 

[silent cilantro]

SERENITY NOW! April Fool’s Day is…soon.
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Where did you get this from? I’m still seeing 400

 

[EZcheezy]

Where did you get this from? I’m still seeing 400

probably fake. easy to change numbers using inspect -> changing html

 

[Time2Fly]

Where did you get this from? I’m still seeing 400

They made it up.

 

[silent cilantro]

Ok, figured. But why must we be so cruel to each other!

 

[FEGuy]

Lotus is never gonna tell us what changes they made.

Unfortunately I think at this point they’re more concerned with getting these cars sold than with throttle response/peak power/driveability.

They’re gonna clean up whatever they need to clean up at any cost.

Just my thoughts, I’m a pessimist.

No, you're a realist.

The post above yours suggesting Lotus would ship all the cars back to the UK rather than mess with the tuning or peak HP is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on a car forum. They've had over a hundred million in inventory (with non-refundable deposits) sitting dormant for going on three months. They will literally do anything to get them to pass so they can be sold.

Lotus is now a public company and the longer this drags out the longer their balance sheet is fucked and they actually risk insolvency. Geely has made it clear they don't want to infuse more capital. The whole thing continues to be an utter mess.

I know we all love the car and the brand but the business side of this has been utterly and completely mishandled. You can only laugh at the company and its leadership. Given what communication has been thus far, no one will ever know what they did to force pass these cars.

The big winner here is Jubu. I bet they sell a lot more tunes this year than they originally forecast.

 

[DCRAM]

? What did you expect? Dallas is selling unclaimed cars for 13k over new price.. Any dealership would welcome the opportunity to make more money….

Personally my car is at the dealership so I am patiently waiting

That's what I expected since that was the agreement from the very beginning, i.e. a refundable deposit...was just answering a question someone asked.