Yep they are worth billions but they won’t prop up the UK side of Lotus forever especially when MW has already admitted that it’s partly their fault.
You can see MW is worried and continuously talking about margins.
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You can see MW is worried and continuously talking about margins.
I’m still in disbelief that TomE treatment when like he mentions all his parts should be available and there is no reason whatsoever that he should be pushed behind later depositors.It could be due to parts supply but I don't think so. My spec shares identical parts with cars being delivered before mine for people with later deposits. I thought it might be Homelink or Tracker due to chip supply issues, but several Homelink cars will be delivered before mine. There are yellow cars, cars with black calipers or DC wheels or black leather interiors all being delivered to post reveal depositors two months before mine. One of the first 50 cars is identical to my spec but going to someone with a 6 July deposit. Yet Lotus said they would try to prioritise based on deposit date.
It's not just me. I know of 15 other pre-reveal folks with similarly delayed deliveries and with no single similarity between their specs. There are pre-reveal folks in the first 25 and second 70, but they don't make up the majority of each. It just seems to be random. They may have recorded the dates incorrectly (it's happened before) or they may have tried to start our builds early and hit an approvals issue (like with the demo cars).
Some of you probably think this is just "first world problems". I think it shows Lotus aren't prepared to be open with a bunch of early adopter customers, in many cases serial owners. And of course, queuing is a national pastime in the UK and we hate people jumping the line
Let’s start a petition for a fight between MW against TomE if TomE wins he gets his car straightaway 1st in the Uk if MW wins we can have him arrested for ABH?
Tom this is showing Lotus true colours, they are not willing to let you know what has happened and also it seems like they have not tried or wish to put it right for you and the other people impacted. Like it or lump seems to be the Lotus way !It could be due to parts supply but I don't think so. My spec shares identical parts with cars being delivered before mine for people with later deposits. I thought it might be Homelink or Tracker due to chip supply issues, but several Homelink cars will be delivered before mine. There are yellow cars, cars with black calipers or DC wheels or black leather interiors all being delivered to post reveal depositors two months before mine. One of the first 50 cars is identical to my spec but going to someone with a 6 July deposit. Yet Lotus said they would try to prioritise based on deposit date.
It's not just me. I know of 15 other pre-reveal folks with similarly delayed deliveries and with no single similarity between their specs. There are pre-reveal folks in the first 25 and second 70, but they don't make up the majority of each. It just seems to be random. They may have recorded the dates incorrectly (it's happened before) or they may have tried to start our builds early and hit an approvals issue (like with the demo cars).
Some of you probably think this is just "first world problems". I think it shows Lotus aren't prepared to be open with a bunch of early adopter customers, in many cases serial owners. And of course, queuing is a national pastime in the UK and we hate people jumping the line
As a customer if you have ordered something that was going to get delivered by order date and this is not what Lotus are doing surely it is not too much to expect, know and understand why this has not been followed
This is supposedly the benefit and joy of being an early depositor that your one of the fist ones to get your car !
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There are many scenarios that could be to blame and its not fair, but we just get on with it....
I dont think there is an issue with the dates personally. Speaking to certain people at Lotus CS over the last few months, a few of them know who the very 1st depositor was and they also know who Tom is; they know my date and position and I believe they know everyone's more or less, with naturally a few LOW TUS errors thrown in. I guess they, CS, wanted things to be in order and potentially still do, but to me its 100% clear they don't call the shots and for the immediate future they wont be doing so, not unless things change structurally above them, at a much higher level.
Im not even going to try to invent the scenario why some early people are out of order, myself included, although I'm not too badly effected, but there are many of these scenarios. None of this will get us too far; CS will never tell us as they simply dont know and they have no power to find out or correct the situation. There are 1 or 2 ways to potentially fix the issue from our side, but neither of those paths are going to be followed, so as I said, we just get on with it...
If the Australian Lotus person can be believed and if he is talking about Globally, it looks like the Auto customers are going to be potentially 4 5 6 months behind the manuals.... not good either.
I dont think there is an issue with the dates personally. Speaking to certain people at Lotus CS over the last few months, a few of them know who the very 1st depositor was and they also know who Tom is; they know my date and position and I believe they know everyone's more or less, with naturally a few LOW TUS errors thrown in. I guess they, CS, wanted things to be in order and potentially still do, but to me its 100% clear they don't call the shots and for the immediate future they wont be doing so, not unless things change structurally above them, at a much higher level.
Im not even going to try to invent the scenario why some early people are out of order, myself included, although I'm not too badly effected, but there are many of these scenarios. None of this will get us too far; CS will never tell us as they simply dont know and they have no power to find out or correct the situation. There are 1 or 2 ways to potentially fix the issue from our side, but neither of those paths are going to be followed, so as I said, we just get on with it...
If the Australian Lotus person can be believed and if he is talking about Globally, it looks like the Auto customers are going to be potentially 4 5 6 months behind the manuals.... not good either.
i can understand my situation as a pre- reveal customer, who wanted a test drive first, Lotus are at fault for my place in the queue due to not providing demos, though promising all year. Latest from my dealer as of yesterday is now November, so slipped again. But for other pre-reveal customers and particularly Tom who seems to know personnel at Lotus is in excusable. I really do feel sorry for all these dedicated Lotus customers who have been let down. This is shocking - do Porsche do this to their long standing customers - apparently not - they reward them by giving them access to GT cars!Tom this is showing Lotus true colours, they are not willing to let you know what has happened and also it seems like they have not tried or wish to put it right for you and the other people impacted. Like it or lump seems to be the Lotus way !
As a customer if you have ordered something that was going to get delivered by order date and this is not what Lotus are doing surely it is not too much to expect, know and understand why this has not been followed
This is supposedly the benefit and joy of being an early depositor that your one of the fist ones to get your car !
@TomE should get a free Eletre, not only for putting up with us sods, but for all the folks on here he has provided help and guidance to which inevitably would have led to further deposits and sales for Lotus.
Lotus are fully aware of my pre-reveal Bell & Colvill deposit, they've quoted the exact date back to me (April 28th 2021). Hasn't stopped my delivery being pushed back to January.
Very far from the end of the world but I was looking forward to being close to the top of the queue!
Very far from the end of the world but I was looking forward to being close to the top of the queue!
I agree with everything you said Tom as I am in the same boat, as I think 5th October 2019 classes me as an early deposit holder.It could be due to parts supply but I don't think so. My spec shares identical parts with cars being delivered before mine for people with later deposits. I thought it might be Homelink or Tracker due to chip supply issues, but several Homelink cars will be delivered before mine. There are yellow cars, cars with black calipers or DC wheels or black leather interiors all being delivered to post reveal depositors two months before mine. One of the first 50 cars is identical to my spec but going to someone with a 6 July deposit. Yet Lotus said they would try to prioritise based on deposit date.
It's not just me. I know of 15 other pre-reveal folks with similarly delayed deliveries and with no single similarity between their specs. There are pre-reveal folks in the first 25 and second 70, but they don't make up the majority of each. It just seems to be random. They may have recorded the dates incorrectly (it's happened before) or they may have tried to start our builds early and hit an approvals issue (like with the demo cars).
Some of you probably think this is just "first world problems". I think it shows Lotus aren't prepared to be open with a bunch of early adopter customers, in many cases serial owners. And of course, queuing is a national pastime in the UK and we hate people jumping the line
Haven't had the call (7/7 10.30 am deposit holder) but rang up and spoke to Abbie/Abby and got informed January delivery expected now. At least my test drive wont have to be rushed to accommodate the car coming sooner. Glad i didn't order Sports with Michelin Cups on it!
I'm 8th of July so could be 400 cars after you, just had a reply from Abi too, only info she could give me was, they will be contacting me in the next few weeks to discuss my emira delivery.
From that I take it April at least.
Last week Abi told me I was on for October build Nov delivery, I told her to contact the factory or her team leader and get their story straight.
Joke.
From that I take it April at least.
Last week Abi told me I was on for October build Nov delivery, I told her to contact the factory or her team leader and get their story straight.
Joke.
I think a lot of hope is planned on a second shift becoming operational. No doubt something else will happen in the world and our deliveries will be impacted before January/February/March.
it must be good for deposit speculating on "in demand cars" as it seems all these type of deliveries are at least 1-2 years.
The last time I spoke to cs (late September) I was in the October build for an automatic but haven’t heard anything this month other than the order update with Harry’s garage from Geoff Dowding, Today I checked out a few insurance companies for an Emira, Manual no problem but NO Automatic on any sites. There can’t be much difference between the cars for Approval other than the transmission. Have somebody dropped the ball getting the Approval rating by only submitting the manual version in the allotted time for the UK (read cut off date in a previous thread) I can’t see me having my car this side of Christmas and I will contact cs this week. I got the car booked into Topaz detailing for full PPF and I will need to update them with another postponement (was an August build)so far they have been very understanding but we’re in the lap of the gods, or Lotus production schedule same thing.
Book for next April
autos are looking like Q2....... nothing official, unless you count Lotus Australasia guy saying it to be so...
The Dealer selling (or not) my gt4 has just had this in for Emira money, quite tempted to go and have a drive if it turns out I'm bumped into an undetermined month next year.
But I've come so far down the emira journey and I think if they hold my fe price it will be a bargain when they inevitable bump the base models 3-5k (my guess)
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But I've come so far down the emira journey and I think if they hold my fe price it will be a bargain when they inevitable bump the base models 3-5k (my guess)
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What a weaponThe Dealer selling (or not) my gt4 has just had this in for Emira money, quite tempted to go and have a drive if it turns out I'm bumped into an undetermined month next year.
But I've come so far down the emira journey and I think if they hold my fe price it will be a bargain when they inevitable bump the base models 3-5k (my guess)
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Just had my phone call from Lotus, very helpful chap.
1) The phone number they called from is NOT the one they said in the recent email, it was 03300 948047 rather than 01753 941775.
2) I am in the first 250
3) Will go through checkout process in December.
4) Collect from Hethel in January.
5) Will be given a choice of three dates nearer the time, if none of these dates are suitable then that is NOT a problem and they will work with us to provide alternative dates.
6) Part exchange process will be done at Hethel at time of collection, details to be confirmed nearer the time.
1) The phone number they called from is NOT the one they said in the recent email, it was 03300 948047 rather than 01753 941775.
2) I am in the first 250
3) Will go through checkout process in December.
4) Collect from Hethel in January.
5) Will be given a choice of three dates nearer the time, if none of these dates are suitable then that is NOT a problem and they will work with us to provide alternative dates.
6) Part exchange process will be done at Hethel at time of collection, details to be confirmed nearer the time.
I think you need to remove yourself from this forum, how dare you come on here and discuss buying another car....The Dealer selling (or not) my gt4 has just had this in for Emira money, quite tempted to go and have a drive if it turns out I'm bumped into an undetermined month next year.
But I've come so far down the emira journey and I think if they hold my fe price it will be a bargain when they inevitable bump the base models 3-5k (my guess)
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It doesnt matter that it was / is possibly the most reliable / practical / desirable super car for the money.....
WE dont want any of those wishy washy sensible thoughts on here thank you very much... I think you need to take a hard look at yourself in the mirror, followed by taking a hard test drive in the Audi..... haha
I used to want to drive the gated manual, but never got the chance..... the noise Im sure is amazing......
I am sure its a better car than the emira, a whole different price point of course..... I wont mention the TT or say anything to put you off..... Hopefully you will get an early month for delivery next year ...... for the emira i mean
I will be majorly pissed if their failure to deliver ends up with us paying more
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